Featured How Christ Was "Made Sin"

Brings to mind; I do not make void the grace of God, for if righteousness be through law -- then Christ died in vain.

And;

[to the] for by [to] grace ye are having been saved, through [the] faith, and this not of you -- of God the gift,

I think we need to remember, the angel told Joseph, the one in her, the virgin, being generated, out of Spirit is holy and the virgin would bring forth the holy one, God with us. Hebrews 1:2 states that one, Son, has been appointed heir of all things.

Does that include being the heir of the grace of life?

When did that Son, who died by the way, inherit the grace of life? Is that the promise of God, who can not lie, made before times begin?

Is it possible for anyone else being a joint heir without being given the Spirit if adoption?

That is how I understand the word of God.

 

Correct.

 

I am sorry to learn that you disagree with the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit who inspired John, but what do They know? No doubt you will explain Their mistake to Them when you meet Them.

John 19:28. 'After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished ......' [Gk. teleo. Or 'finished' or 'made an end of'' or 'performed' or 'paid']..
1. On the cross we may see the fulfilment of all the prophesies which had been written of the Messiah in the Old Testament.
2. On the cross we see the completion of all His sufferings.
3. On the cross we see the purpose of His coming attained.
4. On the cross we can see the accomplishment of the Atonement.
5. On the cross we can see the end of all our sins.
6. On the cross we see the payment of the Law’s requirements.
7. Finally, on the cross we see, by the eye of faith, the defeat of Satan.
I have no time to work these things out here. I took them from a blog post I made 12 years ago. ‘It is Finished!’ Look there for more detail. I should add that I was heavily indebted to A.W. Pink for that post.

The point is that the Lord Jesus had to accomplish a whole lot more than simply dying. He did not need to suffer as He did just to die. That He had finished the work the Father had given Him is shown when, at the ninth hour the sun re-appeared, and no doubt our Lord was conscious once more of the Father's love and approval. Where just before He had cried, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" Now He could dismiss His spirit with the word "Father" on His lips again (Luke 23:46).

But for those who want to be pedantic, there were two more things to be done, which happened almost immediately. Firstly, the fulfilment of Psalm 22:15. '...... That the Scripture might be fulfilled, [He] said, "I thirst!" Now a vessel of sour wine was sitting there, and they filled a sponge with sour wine, put it on hyssop and put it to His mouth......'
And lastly, of course, ' ....... He gave up [or 'dismissed'] His spirit.' No one can kill God; He gave up His life when His work on earth was complete (John 10:18; 17:4).

 

IMHO on the cross he was made sin, "our sin,"
All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD [God the Father] hath laid on him [the Son of God] the iniquity of us all. Isa 53:6

Therefore as James by the HS says, when sin is finished it brings forth death. Jesus then dismissed his life onto the hands of his Father.

All of this goes along perfectly with the last chronological words of Jesus.

Jesus is made sin, My God, My God why have thou forsaken me?
sin is condemned in [to] the flesh Rom 8:3 [John knowing that all things were now accomplished[ Matt It is finished, James 1:6
I thirst. ? Psa 69:21 They gave me also gall for my meat; and in my thirst they gave me vinegar to drink.
death [shed the soul/life, of the flesh, in the blood, for redemption] Father into your hands I commit the spirit of me.

 

So was Jesus lying or was He merely mistaken when He said, "It is finished"?

 

Once again, you do not answer the question in your haste to make an utterly false accusation against me..
In John 17:17:4, the Lord Jesus says, "I have finished the work which You have given Me to do." In John 19:28, we are told, 'After this, Jesus, knowing all things were now acconplished,' and in John 17:30, He declares, "It is finished." Needless to say, all this takes places before He dies.
So iit's not once, but three timees that our Lord considers the work done before His death. Now go away and think about that. It really isn't difficult. And when you have thought it through, which should take you all of 30 seconds, you will understand that you have made a fool of yourself, and made a totally unjustified attempt to blacken my character.

We have corresponded for more than five years now. If you really think that I don't believe that the Lord Jesus needed to die, you can never have read my posts. with any interest at all.

 

Would you care to tell us exactly where I have said that the cross 'does not matter'?

 

This is from my post #8 on this thread.

I have never ever denied that the death of the Lord Jesus 'does not matter.' God forbid I should ever do so! That is all in the fevered imagination of @JonC who never reads my posts, or if he does, doesn't understand them.

 

He couldn't talk, after His Death on the cross.

So He said, "it is finished" prior to His Death, even though His saying that His Accomplishment, of "it is finished", includes His Death?

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Gill may be stating Jesus' Death, as implied when "he said, it is finished;"

Gill says Jesus did the Father's Will, to "obtain eternal salvation for his people,
all which were now done, or as good as done;

Gill:

"John 19:30

"When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar
Of the Roman soldiers, who offered it to him, either by way of reproach, or to quench his thirst; and he drank of it, as is very likely:

"he said, it is finished;
that is, the whole will of God; as that he should be incarnate, be exposed to shame and reproach, and suffer much, and die;

"the whole work his Father gave him to do, which was to preach the Gospel, work miracles, and obtain eternal salvation for his people, all which were now done, or as good as done;

"the whole righteousness of the law was fulfilled, an holy nature assumed, perfect obedience yielded to it, and the penalty of death endured;

"hence a perfect righteousness was finished agreeably to the law, which was magnified and made honourable by it, and redemption from its curse and condemnation secured;

"sin was made an end of, full atonement and satisfaction for it were given;

"complete pardon procured, peace made, and redemption from all iniquity obtained;

"all enemies were conquered; all types, promises, and prophecies were fulfilled,
and his own course of life ended: the reason of his saying so was, because all this was near being done, just upon finishing, and was as good as done; and was sure and certain, and so complete, that nothing need, or could be added to it;

"and it was done entirely without the help of man, and cannot be undone;

"all which since has more clearly appeared by Christ's resurrection from the dead, his entrance into heaven, his session at God's right hand, the declaration of the Gospel, and the application of salvation to particular persons:

"and he bowed his head;
as one dying, and freely submitting to his Father's will, and the stroke of death:

"and gave up the ghost;
his spirit or soul into the hands of his Father; freely laying down that precious life of his which no man could take away from him."

 

IMO It was the blood of Christ that ultimately paid for our sins He had to die and shed His blood. Which He did
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