Featured Recognizing irregular church doctrines.

There is no relationship or association that can be made between:

And:

Their two different definitions of what constitutes the meaning expressed and the definition of the word, "baptism", are as far apart as night is from day.

To confuse "Historic" Baptists with anything having to do with the Didache is totally irresponsible, when the only similarity to be drawn between the two is their both using a word that starts with the letter, "b".

Red flag on the play.

 

So should it be disregarded?

 

Believers baptism by immersion is a misnomer in itself and there is no agreement among Baptists on the doctrine of baptism. A more accurate name might be "professors" baptism. Just because we insist on baptism by immersion does not mean that everyone who we baptize is actually a true believer. Certainly baptism in water is not part of the gospel of salvation.

1Co 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.
13 Is Christ divided? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?
14 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius;
15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.
16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other.
17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Paul was not a member of the local church at Corinth and did not even claim to be a Baptist as far as I can tell, yet he baptized Crispus and Gaius and the family of Stephanus, and they were members of the church.

The mode of baptism by immersion in water is the only part of Baptism on which all Baptists seems to agree. The purpose of God in commanding baptism and it's symbolic meaning is certainly not a point of agreement. This is illustrated on this very forum by a Landmarker, whose systematic doctrinal position assigns all kinds of heresies to it's practice, as well as to it's meaning, even to who may or may not baptize to make it acceptable in their circle. Paul, the great apostle of the faith would not qualify in their system.

Baptism by immersion in water does convey a real and actual purpose of God in reality. Baptism by immersion in water did not begin with the church of Jesus Christ. It began with the deliverance of Israel from Egypt by Moses, a picture of the spiritual new birth.

1Co 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God [is] faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.

Therefore, in everything but the mode, baptism is an irregular doctrine among Baptist groups.

 

Yes and here;
Mt 13:24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

(bundles = denominations and religious movements & cults, a characteristic of these days we are now living in?)

1Jo 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

 

The preterism myth-the KJVO myth-Calvinism-Lent-Word,Faith-Seven church ages myth-oneness or modalism, to name a few. (Now let the arguments begin! Please provide SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT for any of those you believe. Without Scriptural support, they're automatically false.

 

To be exact I do not know what your interpretation of Calvinism is… like is it reformed theology that spells out a certain soteriology (doctrines of Grace), is it predetermination, is it sacramental salvation , Lordship Salvation, etc.

 

Looks like The Lord has given a sound mind to some saved Baptists of the past to contend for the faith once delivered to the saints.

Such as in, "The Relation of Baptism to Salvation", by J.R. Graves.

https://www.pbcofdecaturalabama.org/Baptists/JRGraves/Baptism2Salvation.pdf

 

The Doctrines of Grace are Eternal.

What is it about Total Depravity, Unconditional Election, Limited Atonement, Irresistible Grace, and the Perseverance of the Saints that the Triune GODHEAD didn't know in Eternity Past?

New thread:
The Doctrines of Grace are Eternal.

 

I think there is an error here. One is not baptized into a church, nor indeed, into a denomination. One is baptized into Christ (Romans 6:3; Galatians 3:27). I was 'baptized' as an infant into the Church of England. Much later, when I became a Christian, I was baptized by immersion at a Brethren Assembly on my confession of Christ. That is my baptism and anyone who wants me to have another one can, in the nicest possible way, go and boil his head.
There is no likelihood of my leaving my current church (except in a box) but suppose I emigrate to the USA and finding myself in you neighbourhood, I apply to join your church. You have every right to interview me, to demand that I sign up to you church constitution and Statement of Faith. You have the right to write to my former church(es) to find out if I behaved myself. But to expect someone to submit to re-baptism when he has already been baptized as a believer is a non-starter so far as I'm concerned ...... unless, of course, the baptism was non-Trinitarian (eg. JWs, Mormons etc.)..

 

Looks like, "Gathering to His Name: the Story of Open Brethren in Britain and Ireland (2006), the standard one-volume history of the Brethren movement. It is an edited version of an article that first appeared in Grace Magazine (July 2008).
Origins (1825-50)

"The story begins early in the 19th century. Politically and socially, this was a turbulent period in Britain and Ireland: after the French Revolution many feared that similar events might occur here. The Industrial Revolution and later depression brought widespread unrest and economic hardship. It was a time of rapid change in all aspects of life. In the churches, unsettlement took the forms of dissatisfaction with the perceived worldliness of the churches and a longing for more intense spiritual experience.

"Several movements originated around 1830, seeking spiritual renewal and purer fellowship. The Strict Baptists took shape as a distinct body; those associated with Edward Irving formed churches governed by apostles and claiming a restoration of the spiritual gifts and ministries mentioned in the New Testament (they were later known as the Catholic Apostolic Church); what became known as Anglo-Catholicism took shape in the Church of England; and the Brethren came into existence. Their earliest meetings were in Ireland (Dublin especially) and Plymouth (giving rise to the designation ‘Plymouth Brethren’). Their aim was to provide a fellowship in which all true believers could worship together, gathered round the Lord’s Table, and study the Scriptures without being divided by differing denominational allegiances."