Featured Satan Murdered Jesus - The Scripture and Theology

The Bible never contradicts itself. Any apparent contradictions reveal either human lack of fullness of understanding or human mishandling of one or more biblical statements or both.

 

Rightly interpreting Acts 2:23 requires taking into consideration that Scripture speaks of people killing others when the person spoken of did not actually do the killing:

Matt. 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

Herod did not himself actually with his own bodily actions slay all the children; he commanded others who actually did the killing.

Matt. 14:3 For Herod had laid hold on John, and bound him, and put him in prison for Herodias' sake, his brother Philip's wife.

Herod himself did not with his own bodily actions lay hold of John, bind him, and put him in prison. He commanded others who actually did all these actions.

Mk. 6:16 But when Herod heard thereof, he said, It is John, whom I beheaded: he is risen from the dead.

Lk. 9:9 And Herod said, John have I beheaded: but who is this, of whom I hear such things? And he desired to see him.

Herod himself did not with his own bodily actions behead John. Herod commanded someone else to do so; the executioner was the one who actually beheaded John:

Mark 6:27 And immediately the king sent an executioner, and commanded his head to be brought: and he went and beheaded him in the prison

Concerning the death of Jesus, no human being(s) or Satan actually took Jesus' spirit from Him so that He died. Jesus died only because He voluntarily delivered His spirit into the hands of the Father. Neither wicked men nor Satan had anything to do with His actual death.

 

So, you're not in agreement with @Martin Marprelate - that Satan was actually trying to prevent the crucifixion from happening.

...and this, to you, is the fulfillment of "Thou shalt bruise His Heel"?

 

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I have never seen a clearer attempt to walk arm a arm with Satan down the Primrose Pathway having the exultation of Satan utmost in the heart and mind, other that the artwork, other graven images, like jewelry that depicts Jesus as remaining on the cross, that emphasize Jesus having died, as if that is the end of the story.
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There is no other reason for Jesus to have died, because Jesus had my sins placed upon Him, the wages of the guilty of my sins being Jesus dying, as the result of them, not as thr result of another beings decision to take His Life at will, and against the will of God.

Jesus', resurrection revealed that God's Justice had been satisfied and that God had accepted Jesus payment for the sins of His people, as a Perfect Innocent sacrifice for them.

A comment indicated Jesus didn't remain fatally murdered!!!

Unfortunately, on other threads, Jesus' resurrection, when it is mentioned, is also credited to Satan, as the result of him having murdered Jesus, and Him being Innocent.

The Christless formula there attempts to be. "Satan murdering Jesus = the resurrection of Jesus from the dead", as if Satan were the cause of Jesus' resurrection being the result.
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It is appointed unto man by God All Mighty once to die.

Satan has introduced sin into the first man, which is the power of death spoken of, not a captious ability to murder human beings at will, or he would have already killed everybody.
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So, after crediting the death of the Son of to Satan, our flesh now wants to say that Satan suffered a fatal wound(?) When was that? When did Satan die?

That would be like saying the murder of Jesus included His Divine Nature as if Satan caused God to die.
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What Satan meant for evil, God, by His Determinant Counsel and Foreknowledge, meant for good.

Satan is an insignificant disposable pawn that was used by God like a June bug on a string and is doomed forever to the fires and torment of the Lake of Fire.

 

Just out of interest; where exactly is Satan mention in this passage?

 

So, when Jesus was in the wilderness for 40 days, nearly starved to death, so helpless the angels had to minister to Him, Satan “tempted” Jesus. Had Satan wanted Jesus dead and if Satan had such authority, Satan could have “murdered” Jesus there, couldn’t he?

But Satan tempted Jesus by promising all the kingdoms of the earth. Why? Satan wanted to stop Jesus from going to the cross to make PSA for God’s chosen people.

As far as the “bruising” of the heel of the seed of the woman, I tend to think it refers to all Satanic activity directed toward Christ, Hus people, His ministry etc…. Including Jesus’s arrest, torture, humiliation and crucifixion.

Jesus lay down His life, by His own authority and power, when He delivered His Spirit to God the Father. That was when His body died.

peace to you

 

Not unless it was God's plan, which it wasn't.

A deep thought for you: Who tempted Christ?

Mark 1:12 At once the Spirit drove Jesus into the wilderness, (biblehub.com)

Consider the invert, that God 'drove' Satan also.

Yes, Satan's 'seed' did just that, as foretold in Gensis 3:15.

I strongly recommend that you AND EVERYONE read the article linked at the bottom of this post, particularly as it relates to "the mystery which for ages has been hidden in God".

I found the article very enlightening.

 

For the third time.

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I'm sorry, where exactly, in the passage you quoted in your post #201 - the one that you began by saying "I said" -does the text so much as mention Satan, let alone hint that he murdered Christ?

 

According to that text (Acts of the Apostles 2:24, the Jews put him to death by the hands of godless men (presumably the Roman soldiers, according to God's predetermined plan and foreknowledge. There is no mention of Satan whatsoever. You are reading him in, and in doing so putting yourself in agreement with a bunch of Satanists who hold that Satan murdered Christ.

I do not understand why you are quoting a passage that does not so much as mention Satan, let alone say that he murdered Christ.

But as for John 8, to which you allude, there is no verse there that says that Satan murdered Jesus. In fact, there is no verse anywhere in the Bible that says that Satan murdered Jesus.
If you are having trouble understanding Scripture it may be due to your habit of picking through the Bible trying to support your theories rather than actually beginning with God's Word.

 

Satan was a murderer from the beginning because he caused the fall of Adam and Eve into sin. But he can murder no one or even harm them without the express permission of God (Job 1:12; 2:6). The Lord Jesus says that they were like their father because they wanted to kill Jesus. The passage does not say that Satan wanted to kill Jesus, much less that he did so, although, as I have pointed out elsewhere, it is possible that he would have wished to kill our Lord before He had reached the end of His mission (i.e. before John 12:23). Satan's great aim was to prevent our Lord from dying on the cross.

Satan sought to subvert all the apostles (Luke 22:31-32), but he was only allowed to do so to Judas so that the Scriptures (Psalms 41:9; 55:12-14) might be fulfilled. As I have pointed out to you, the Jewish leaders tried repeatedly to kill the Lord Jesus, but failed on each occasion 'because His time had not yet come.' It was God who decided when that time had come, not Satan or anyone else.

What makes you think they were the same people? Peter addressed more than 3,000 men in his sermon; there were far fewer than that speaking to our Lord in John 8. But quite apart from that, you are adding to Scripture what simply is not there. There is not a single verse that says that Satan murdered Christ - not one!

I want nothing of the kind as you very well know. You are adding to Scripture what simply is not there.

Now you are modifying the title of the thread. The thread declares that "Satan murdered Jesus." That wicked men actually did the deed is not at issue. The fact is that they were not doing Satan's will, but God's, as Acts 2:23; 4:27-28 very clearly declare. But again, you ignore even clearer evidence. 'It was the LORD's will to bruise Him. HE HAS PUT HIM TO GRIEF.' 'I WILL STRIKE THE SHEPHERD.' 'NO-ONE TAKES MY LIFE FROM ME, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MYSELF. I HAVE POWER TO LAY IT DOWN, AND I HAVE POWER TO TAKE IT UP AGAIN. THIS COMMAND I HAVE RECEIVED FROM MY FATHER.' Believe the words of Scripture!

 

As someone else pointed out, when you connect the words of our Lord declaring no one takes His life, He lays it down and takes it up by His own authority…. With…

… Our Lord’s statements on the cross “it is finished” and “Father, into thy hands I commend My Spirit….

It seems clear that Jesus chose the time when His Spirit left His body and His physical body died.

Peace to you

 

I read this article. The author asserts the following:

"Paul seemed to have a clear grasp on the fact that God had kept his plan a secret or mystery from everyone before Christ came. The demonic realm would not have crucified Jesus, if he had understood his plan. For instance, Paul writes,

(1 Cor. 2:6-8) We do speak wisdom among those who are mature; a wisdom, however, not of this age nor of the rulers of this age, who are passing away; 7 but we speak God’s wisdom in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God predestined before the ages to our glory; 8 the wisdom which none of the rulers of this age has understood; for if they had understood it they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Many commentators believe that the “rulers of this age” refer to Pontius Pilate, Caiaphas, Herod, and the Sanhedrin. Yet in Paul’s second letter to the Corinthians, he describes Satan as “the god of this world” (2 Cor. 4:4), and he calls demons “world rulers of this darkness” (Eph. 6:12). Could it be that the world rulers that he is referring to are actually the demonic realm, who were blindsided by the self-sacrificial act of the cross?"​

No, it cannot be that the world rulers that Paul is referring to in 1 Cor. 2:6-8 are demonic beings. Paul specifies that the rulers of this age whom he has in view in those verses "are passing away." The Bible never teaches that Satan and his demons are passing away. The author is wrong in suggesting that as a proper understanding of that passage.