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You cant say a person isnt redeemed because they are not a believer. Paul was redeemed by Christ even when he was saul the persecutor, but since he had been redeemed Jesus gave him Faith to believe on Him 1 Tim 1:12-16

12 And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

13 Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

14 And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.

16 Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

 

@ChristB4Us- NEVER MIND

I'm not into straining gnats.

I suppose "I and the Father are one" escapes you.

 

Your reference below does not testify to Paul being redeemed before he became a believer when before, he was a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious as verse 13 testifies so how was he redeemed before he was a believer?

We have redemption through His blood and only by being a believer can he had that redemption by faith in Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled

22 In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

23 If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

 

Granted the verse you referred to was conflated and convoluted but the other scriptures I had mentioned aligns with how I was applying your reference to mean for why I do not see that as vise versa.

So we can disagree on that verse and pray for ne another since it is on God to cause the increase as that iron sharpen iron is His ministry to perform.

Proverbs 27:17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?

6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

24 Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.

25 Brethren, pray for us.

 

Sure Paul and any other believer was redeemed by Christ prior to becoming believers. They were redeemed solely by Christ having been made a curse for them upon the Cross Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

 

Your's is the garbage of Vanology. Your system has the creature initiating salvation by choosing to believe, and then God elects whether or not to honor His promise of eternal life to them that believe.

 

...one is 'of God', in lieu of:

44 Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father it is your will to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and standeth not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.
47 He that is of God heareth the words of God: for this cause ye hear [them] not, because ye are not of God. Jn 8

12 not as Cain was of the evil one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his works were evil, and his brother`s righteous. 1 Jn 3

70 Jesus answered them, Did not I choose you the twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71 Now he spake of Judas the son of Simon Iscariot, for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve. Jn 6

7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism, he said unto them, Ye offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Mt 3

33 Ye serpents, ye offspring of vipers, how shall ye escape the judgment of hell? Mt 23

 

Wow, Van, have you flipped and come to the 'other side'?

 

No. If one is 'of God' then one is not 'of the devil'.

 

No, Van, get it right. They don't understand because they cannot hear:

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? [Even] because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of [your] father the devil.....
47 He that is of God heareth the words of God: for this cause ye hear [them] not, because ye are not of God. Jn 8
26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep. Jn 10

 

Are you of that mindset that everyone is saved regardless if they believe in Jesus Christ or not?

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

So Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law for all those that believed in Jesus Christ.

 

Actually its the Truth. Redemption is by the blood/death of Christ. Christ died in 33 ad and redeemed them He died for, now the redeemed may not have been born a sinner until 1945, when were they redeemed by Chrits death ? In 33 ad, but they wont experience its blessings until sometime beyond 1945, after they are born sinners.