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Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

JD731

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Does your Baptist denomination teach that Israel and the church of Jesus Christ are the same entity in either and both testaments?

I am IFB so my answer to my question is "no," Israel is the people of God with an earth bound destiny while the church is predestined to heavenly glorification and the prophesies to each are unique to them and are literal.
 

Ben1445

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There are definitely spiritual applications. These do not negate the promises made of physical things, people, and places.
 

Wesley Briggman

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Does your Baptist denomination teach that Israel and the church of Jesus Christ are the same entity in either and both testaments?
Their is no such thing as a hierarchy in the Baptist community. No such thing as a Baptist denomination. Every Baptist congregation is self-governing - autonomous.

No Baptist I have attended over the past 60 years taught that Israel and the church are the same entity.
 

Zaatar71

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The elect remnant from the jewish nation, and elect gentiles who are branches of the olive tree that are grafted in, replacing unbelieving Jews, now form the true Israel of God. There is now one new man, not a divided heavenly/earthly people. The middle wall has been eternally broken down.
 

kyredneck

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Does your Baptist denomination teach that Israel and the church of Jesus Christ are the same entity in either and both testaments?

The 'Israel of God' is comprised of OT & NT saints, known also as 'children of promise'.

Galatians Chapter 4

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Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.

Romans Chapter 9

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But it is not as though the word of God hath come to nought. For they are not all Israel, that are of Israel:

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neither, because they are Abraham`s seed, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

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That is, it is not the children of the flesh that are children of God; but the children of the promise are reckoned for a seed.

Philippians Chapter 3

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for we are the circumcision, who worship by the Spirit of God, and glory in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh:
 
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JesusFan

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The elect remnant from the jewish nation, and elect gentiles who are branches of the olive tree that are grafted in, replacing unbelieving Jews, now form the true Israel of God. There is now one new man, not a divided heavenly/earthly people. The middle wall has been eternally broken down.
The Church proper is now spiritual Israel
 

JesusFan

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Does your Baptist denomination teach that Israel and the church of Jesus Christ are the same entity in either and both testaments?

I am IFB so my answer to my question is "no," Israel is the people of God with an earth bound destiny while the church is predestined to heavenly glorification and the prophesies to each are unique to them and are literal.
The Church is now spiritual israel, but national Israel will have still a place in plan of God, as they shall be reborn as a people and nation unto God at Second Coming event
 

Eternally Grateful

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Salvation in all ages has been to all people through faith..

the church in the OT or the NT belong to children of God be it jew or gentile

God did however make a specific promise to Israel through Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.. and this covenant still stands today. as a seperate covenant.

Every baptist church I ever attended believed this or something like this
 

Zaatar71

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The Church is now spiritual israel, but national Israel will have still a place in plan of God, as they shall be reborn as a people and nation unto God at Second Coming event
God is able to GRAFT THEM IN AGAIN....Romans 11:
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
 
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