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    Should the Bible say "Lucifer" or "morning star" in Isaiah 14:12? A Plain, Straightforward Bible Treatment of "LUCIFER" in Isaiah 14:12.

    If KJV-only advocates are concerned about any possible confusion caused by either the rendering "Lucifer" or its synonym "morning star," they could consider another possible rendering. Several Bible scholars think that a better literal, accurate translation of the Hebrew Helel is "shining one"...
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    Should the Bible say "Lucifer" or "morning star" in Isaiah 14:12? A Plain, Straightforward Bible Treatment of "LUCIFER" in Isaiah 14:12.

    The 1828 Webster's Dictionary defined daystar as following: "The morning star, Lucifer, Venus; the star which precedes the morning light." In her 1997-1998 catalogue, Riplinger claimed that the 1828 Webster's Dictionary "defines words as they were used during the writing of the KJV 1611." The...
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    John R. Rice and the KJV

    Jack Hyles' new view is evident in his 1993 book entitled Enemies of Soul Winning with its fifth chapter being entitled "False Bibles--an Enemy of Soul Winning." Perhaps that 1995 resolution was in response to Hyles' teaching in this 1993 book. In this 1993 book, Jack Hyles (1926-2001) wrote...
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    Calvin denied Lucifer is Satan

    The rendering "day star" and "morning star" are synonyms for Lucifer, and they likely are the result of the influence of the Latin-based rendering "Lucifer". If morning star is a mistranslation as you allege, that likewise means that "Lucifer" would be a mistranslation. The 1828 Webster's...
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    I decided not to discuss anymore.

    That is not what I stated. My statement states the truth. You improperly try to put words in my mouth that I did not say. The Scriptures acknowledge that professed believers or those who have faith can be deceived or can even deceive themselves (1 John 1:8, James 1:22, James 1:26, 1 Cor...
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    Calvin denied Lucifer is Satan

    My quotation listed the source. It is in a book entitled: Lancelot Andrewes: Selected Writings edited by P. E. Hewison. In a sermon, KJV translator Lancelot Andrewes referred to "St Peter's Lucifer in cordibus [daystar in your hearts]" (Hewison, Selected Writings, p. 112). An edition of the...
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    I decided not to discuss anymore.

    Someone who believes non-true and non-scriptural claims for the KJV deceives themselves or has been deceived by others.
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    Was the Nkjv translated from same sorce texts as used by the 1611 translators for Kjv then?

    The KJV translators consulted "the perverted Roman Catholic Latin Vulgate," and they even borrowed many renderings from the 1582 Roman Catholic Rheims New Testament translated from an edition of Jerome's Latin Vulgate. The KJV translators also consulted a printed edition of the Greek...
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    Calvin denied Lucifer is Satan

    Perhaps you read the KJV subjectively or incorrectly after having been taught false KJV-only doctrine and after having read unreliable, biased KJV-only sources. You seem to make assumptions concerning the KJV that involve use of fallacies such as begging the question. You presume or assume...
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    Do the KJVO consider any translation valid then to use?

    When translations into foreign languages are made from the KJV, they would usually be less accurate than if they were made from the preserved Scriptures in the original languages. The fact that it has sometimes been done does not suggest that it is best. The 1637 Dutch Statenvertaling Bible...
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    Where did the king's men get these words?

    Will Kinney is misinformed. His claims are not all true. The KJV translators were not honest enough to put most of the words they added in translating in a different type or italics. The 1611 edition of the KJV put added words in a different type while post-1611 editions put the added words...
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    Where did the king's men get these words?

    Invalid comparison. What the Lord Jesus Christ and Paul said in the New Testament is part of the giving of the New Testament by direct inspiration of God. That is not the same thing as words added in post-NT translating in 1611.
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    Where did the king's men get these words?

    Are you contradicting clear scriptural truth? According to scripture, words added by men are not pure words directly given by inspiration of God.
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    New Discovery!!!! - King James (king) used Lucifer as a proper noun!

    How is that a new discovery? James in Scotland had been raised, reading the 1560 Geneva Bible, which printed Lucifer with a capital letter at Isaiah 14:12. The 1560 Geneva Bible also clearly stated in its marginal note at Isaiah 14:12--"for the morning star, that goeth before the sun, is...
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    Calvin denied Lucifer is Satan

    Older reference materials show that they were and are synonyms. At the end of Isaiah 14, the 1549 edition of Matthew’s Bible has some notes that include these words: “Lucifer, the morning star, which he calleth the child of the morning, because it appeared only in the morning.” The marginal...
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    Nehemiah 6:9

    Do you oppose the scriptural truths that teach that the same measures/standards should be applied consistently? The Scriptures teach that use of divers measures [double standards] would be an abomination to the LORD (Prov. 20:10). If you and other KJV-only advocates suggest that it is wrong...
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    Nehemiah 6:9

    You laugh at the presenting of the truth.
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    Was the Nkjv translated from same sorce texts as used by the 1611 translators for Kjv then?

    What people are you claiming that I am attacking? Do you oppose the stating of the truth? Are you attacking all believers who disagree with your human, non-scriptural KJV-only opinions?
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    Was the Nkjv translated from same sorce texts as used by the 1611 translators for Kjv then?

    Examples from the book of Judges where the NKJV may agree basically with the 1560 Geneva Bible when it differs from the KJV. Jud. 1:4 Then Judah (Geneva, NKJV) And Judah (KJV) Jud. 1:7 Seventy (Geneva, NKJV) Threescore and ten (KJV) Jud. 1:9 the low country (Geneva) the valley (KJV) the lowland...
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    Where did the king's men get these words?

    There are several editions [perhaps eleven or more] of the KJV that add the words without having them in italics. Those editions would likely be eleven of the KJV editions below that do not have "of flies" in italics at Exodus 8:21. Exodus 8:21 [italics] [see Ps. 78:45, 105:31, where of flies...
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