Search results

Hey John. If that's true, that would throw a wrench into the machinery. ;) The video said that they carbon dated the papyrus to about thirty to sixty A.D., if my memory serves me correctly. Do you have a link for that info? Dave

@kyredneck @Brightfame52 @Dave G In Galatians 4, with reference to Isaac, "Born of the Spirit" (as opposed to the flesh), in the context used by Paul, is speaking of the miracle of the physical birth of Isaac, since it was well past Sarah's child bearing years. Thus He was born of the Spirit...

Hey KY, back again I see. :) Nicodemus' reply would seem to be a rather odd one in John 3 if the idea of being born again was not, at the very least, implied in the definition. Given the fact that it is translated born again, and not born of God, I'll stick with what it says. Tomayto - tomahto...

Were these born again? John 14:16-18 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever-- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you...

Normally I don't get caught up in this kind of stuff. Usually I'll just assume that it's fake. But I'll admit, this one was intriguing. It's not a sermon, in fact it's not teaching any doctrines at all. It's a heartfelt personal letter to His brother. Maybe it's just somebody trying to make a...

1 John 5:1 Whoever believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves Him who begot also loves him who is begotten of Him. This passage is often quoted as proof that one must be born again to believe. I think this mistranslation was pointed out very eloquently by Dr. Sam...

Dave, I was you. I might know your theology better than you do. I'm simply asking you to let Scripture define itself. When you start with the idea that there are only two options, born again or the flesh, that's going to wreak havoc on your interpretation of Scripture. Believe it or not, not...

John 3:3 was addressed in post #5. And even more in #14 Not to mention that Jesus qualified all that with this statement. Nobody was born again until the Son of man was lifted up. This is consistent with what I've been saying and also consistent with Scripture. John 3:13-15 No one has...

Dave Lets start out with Eph. I'm happy that it says so much of God's sovereignty, but that does not prove that man must be born again before He believes. Look at chapter two, vs. 1-10. Right in the midst of explaining spiritual life to death, he says this. vs. 5-6 even when we were dead in...

Dave G You're trying to reframe the discussion into an all or nothing argument. God's sovereignty vs. the flesh. God's sovereignty is not in question. What is in question is you're belief that a person must be born again to believe. Scripture does not allow your interpretation.

Hey Dave, thanks for the reply. It is vert important to recognize the transition taking place from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant, or the Old Testament to the New Testament. There are promises that were made way back in the OT that are being fulfilled at that transition. One of them is...

Yes E, we are all saved by the same cross, but it had to actually happen. For us, it already happened, for them it was still in promise only. It was owed to them. These promises were/are realized through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, called the baptism/placing into/immersion with the Holy...

Hey KY These are two different discussions. You see it as black and white. In other words, if they weren't born again, then it must be from the flesh. But OT believers had the Holy Spirit upon them. That didn't make them born again, but it did have an effect on them. And there are other things...

Hebrews 9:16-17 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. John 1:12-13 is speaking of those who received Jesus during His earthy ministry...

@Silverhair I'll need to answer this tomorrow. I was expecting this thread to be closed. Maybe it will be tomorrow. If not....

This is one of a few proof texts used to prove that man must be born again before He can believe. The problem is that this text doesn't actually say that. John 1:12-13 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were...

Some people come to Scripture with preconceived ideas and try to smash those ideas into the text. I've seen it at both ends of the theological spectrum. They try to define the Bible by the system, instead of the other way around. Like the idea that man is born again before He comes to faith...

@Silverhair, do you hold Biblical consistency over theological consistency? God is sovereign over all things because He "works all things according to the counsel of His will" (Eph 1:11). And we know that those same things, "all things work together for good to those who love God" (Romans...

@Silverhair I think that we're on the same page, but there is some overlapping in the conversations going on. Romans tells us that this hardening was only partial, and while earned by these same unbelievers, was also used to usher in the Gentiles. Those passages spoken of as referring to mans...

In Galatians 5:22, I think the idea is faithfulness. In Romans 5:1-2, we have access to that grace by faith. Ephesians 2:8 says the same thing that we are saved by grace, through faith. In other words, faith takes u to that grace. Galatians 3:3 Paul asks the question, did we receive the Holy...