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Not according to scripture they were not. Now did Christ know who would freely come to Him, of course, He is God after all which means that He is omniscient.

You finally got it right BF. As I have said many times BF. they hear, they believe and then they are saved by God.

God being omniscient knows all those that will freely trust in His name for their salvation. So what Christ is saying here Joh 10:16 fits with what Paul said in Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed...

You are funny BF. You continue to deny the clear word of God. Did Christ lay down $50 to by those false teachers BF? Or did He pay the full price via His blood so that even they could be saved through faith in Him? Your continued denial of the truth of God's word is troubling to say the least.

That is not what those verses say BF. Once again you are denying clear scripture. Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Rom 10:9 that if you confess...

@Ben1445 notice how they will deny scripture but then cannot support what they say.

What do you think the words "the Lord who bought them," means BF? Are you not the one that keeps saying the we are bought by the blood of Christ.

Putting salvation before faith. You have a strange way of understanding the word of God. Eph 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, Rom 10:9 that if you...

Read the bible BF. Believe what it says not what you want it to say.

I find it amazing how much work the calvinuist will put into denying the clear word of God.

Those that have freely trusted in Christ are those that are given to the son BF. Sorry BF but you are wroong again.

Christ is the propitiation for the whole world, His death covered the sins of all of humanity and appeased the wrath of God. If salvation was not potential but actual, as you have said, for all who are it's object, the whole world, then the whole world has been saved, that is universalism a...

The Gospel For God so loved the world, that He gave His Only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not Perish, but have Eternal Life. For Whom Did Christ Die? HE DIED FOR Mat_9:13; Luk_5:32 died for sinners 1Ti_2:6; Isa_53:6 all Heb_2:9; 1Ti_4:10 every man Joh 3:15...

The burden of proof rests with those who wish to deny an atonement made for all, since the Scriptures plainly say that he did die for all. {1Ti_2:6, Rom_5:6, Rom_5:8} And the bible even gives us the reason He died for all. That all could be saved which is the Fathers desire. {1Ti_2:3-4...

With reference to 1 John 2:2 The atonement was made for the ones that John was writing to "propitiation for our sins" Then he tells them but the atonement was not limited to just them "and not for ours only" Then he tells them who else were to be included "but also for the whole world" That...

The calvinist version of God is not the God we find in scripture. Yes God sends people to hell when they freely reject Him but the calvinist is the one that makes man reject Him. Your divine determinism requires that God determine all things not just some things so those that reject God do so...

See post @ 36 The bible speaks of potential salvation as man must make the choice to either reject or trust in God. God does not do it for him. ph 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Eph 2:9 not as a result of works, so that...

They go to hell because they have rejected the means of salvation. Definition you need to know Propitiation The act of appeasing wrath and conciliating the favor of an offended person; the act of one making propitious. {in biblical theology, God} 1Jn_2:2 Propitious Disposed to be gracious or...

Perhaps you do as you do not seem to be able to understand the basics of salvation as found in scripture. Your problem is that you have to low a view of the sovereignty of God and of His love for His creation. You are trusting a man-made religion rather than the word of God.

Actually they do not. Prior to augustine and even augustine prior to his fight with Pelagius the ECF's held to mans free will. The TULIP/DoG are a gross misrepresentation of the love of God for His creation. Those views were taught prior to the reformation but prior to augustine they were...