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    Will the LORD Actually Sit Upon the Throne of David in Zion Per Ps 132:11-18

    David, I mentioned Baptists because I am on a site for Baptists only and I note that Baptists here hardly agree on anything. So I did not ask my question based on Baptist teaching but I asked Baptists if they believed what Ps 132:11-18 says. When you say you do not believe what it says you are...
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    Will the LORD Actually Sit Upon the Throne of David in Zion Per Ps 132:11-18

    I share your grief Dave G. The church cannot survive without authoritative words from God. God knows that. He warned us about division over words and told us to speak the same things. Most of the Baptists here have traded words for philosophies and believe in themselves. I think he has permitted...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Thanks for your input on my op, CB4U, but I do not see any answer to the question of the op in your comments. If you want to talk about baptism in water, I will write a few words. It seems to me that God baptizes all of his physical creation in water. It seems the universe itself is under...
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    Will the LORD Actually Sit Upon the Throne of David in Zion Per Ps 132:11-18

    Concerning what I have underlined above, David, what if I told you that Paul, who wrote the doctrines and the explanation of the church of Jesus Christ and how it apllies to gentiles, and who received all the mysteries of it by revelation, did not use the word "throne" and he used the word...
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    Will the LORD Actually Sit Upon the Throne of David in Zion Per Ps 132:11-18

    Do Baptists believe these words they read? Here is what is said in those verses and the answer before comments should be a yes or a no. 11 The LORD hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne. 12 If thy children will keep my...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Who made ChatGPT and the internet the end of all authority? If that is what you think, then I am okay with it and certainly not intimidated or anxious because you take that view. I have already indicated that your choice of Bibles is between you and God, or maybe ChatGPT and the internet and...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    There cannot be the kingdom of God as described in the scriptures without the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ because of sin and death in the world. His kingdom is described as an everlasting kingdom and the citizens of his kingdom have everlasting life from God as a gift. That...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Well,,,, okay..... The doctrine of comparison. Jesus Christ says his words are spirit and they are life, Jn 6:63 I believe that. Paul says the spiritual man learns the deep things of God by comparing spiritual things with spiritual. There is not a single word, even in your Bibles, that...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Actually this is not true except as it pertained to his overall stated reason for his first coming, and that is stated clearly and plainly here: 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    .....okay,........ I guess........:Biggrin:Biggrin:Biggrin
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    I have no doubt what is the words of God. I have studied the KJV Bible for years and it has proven itself to me in many ways that it is completely trustworthy. I learned as a young man how important meditation on the word of God was to understand the deep things of God and to this day I...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    There is many reasons why this cannot be true, Van. I can name several and prove them with scriptures in context. However, I will just remind you that Jesus was crucified for claiming he was the King of the Jews. Everybody involved in his earthly ministry was aware of that and he even rode into...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Please understand that my comments in this post is not my attempt to try to correct you. My comments are an explanation as to why I disagree with you but I fully acknowledge that you have the right to believe what you will and that you have your reasons for doing so. I think that a person who...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    I am not understanding "word salad" in the context of my post. Is not Ps 89 about the Davidic Covenant, one that God said he swore to David? Is it not prophetic , giving clarity to events of this age we are now occupying? Did I not add relevant context from Acts 15 where the time line for the...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Percho, Thanks for continuing to give thought on the subject of the thread. Was the kingdom of heaven really at hand when Jesus came? So your doctrine is that what is written about God's rule over the earth and heaven and men in the books of the OT scriptures have no relevance to us today...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    We are probably closer to agreement than even appears and the difference might be in how we express ourselves. I could point out Pr 15:3 The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good. I just know that God gave the word to his prophets in ways that was not writing...
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    Biblical Human Will Limitations

    Genesis 11:6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. (I think they imagined to build a tower to heaven) Division of languages which led to physical...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Van, I am not sure what your argument is and If I knew, I might be convinced, but, it seems to me like you are saying the specific kingdom on the earth that Jesus Christ ruling from Jerusalem over the regenerated state of Israel with both nations reunited into one and restored as one kingdom...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Van, I am going to appeal to logic and reason. The kingdom that Jesus Christ came and began preaching as good news was the kingdom covenanted to David. God had promised with an oath that his offspring would rise to sit on his throne forever. Jesus Christ said from his own lips, which you do not...
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    Was the Kingdom of Heaven Really at Hand When Jesus Came

    Continued from above: Note #1 (The body, any body, without the Spirit in it is dead, separated from God). The body, any body, with the Spirit in it as a permanent member of it is alive) 8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the...
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