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The account came from God. Are you trying to argue that He is "prescientific"?

Are you referring to the Gap Theory here (which I have seen thoroughly rebutted)?

Will you show by the original languages - syntax, grammatical constructs, context, etc. - why the creation account in Genesis was meant to be understood as poetry? Also, I would be interested to see your rebuttal to the points made in this article: Did God really take six days?

While I do not know of any NT verse that says that God created in six days, there are references in the NT to the Genesis account of the six days of creation being true. Jesus did believe in six literal days of creation since He is the one that said He created in six days. Here are some...

Are you trying to argue that if one trusts Christ, he should not buy insurance, wear seat belts, or save for retirement? If so, to what conclusion would you argue this should go to?

True...if one forfeits his salvation, he no longer has it, and if one could lose (or loses - depending on what you believe the Bible teaches about this) his salvation, he would no longer have it then either. The end result would be the same in the sense that in both cases the person would no...

Care to explain why you believe that to be the case?

NASB- 37"All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. No problem here. This says nothing about what happens if the person chooses not to abide in Christ. Also, the tense of the verb "comes" is in the present tense as shown in YLT...

John 10:28 (NASB) 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. Some definitions of "pluck": to pull with sudden force or with a jerk; to pull or move by force; to give a pull at; to snatch So you really think that "plucking"...

Are you trying to argue that all of the words you have listed here mean exactly the same thing? Surely you know this is not the case. Are you really prepared to defend that "forgetting" something is the same as "ignoring" it, for example? Why the name calling? Why the personal attacks...

Not at all. I do believe that no man or anything else for that matter can pluck me out of the Father's hand. It would be very awkward to describe "pluck" as something one could do to himself. How can one "pull" himself away from something. Willing leave the Father's hand, yes...but, "pluck"...

This is not true. I believe it is possible for one to forfeit (not "lose") his salvation and I am not SDA. I see that despite explaining the difference, "lose" is still being used instead of "forfeit". As far as denominations that believe one can "lose" and/or forfeit salvation, there are...

I can see from your response here and your response to me earlier that you have doctrinal beliefs that evidently differ greatly than mine. I do not see where the Bible teaches that I have a soul and a spirit. I see that I have a physical person (my physical body - material) and a spiritual...

Again, I have not seen where anyone has shown that continuing to believe on Jesus, continuing to abide in Him, etc. is a "work". To use your reasoning, if those are works, then I could say that the Bible contradicts itself since I see verses in the Bible that say one must do these things to...

You do realize that all of your statements here could be turned around and redirected at the OSAS belief. What you said here could be said by either side with both believing they are correct.

Just briefly, as I do not have a lot of time at the moment, I wanted to say that I have studied this a lot, including looking at the original languages. I have read many arguments from various different views regarding salvation with the Scriptures they give as support. I once believed in...

webdog, I do not have a lot of time to respond at the moment, but I wanted to say that I also believe that if an infant were to die before he could understand right from wrong, what salvation is, etc. I believe he would go to be with Christ.

Since the issue of you trying to equate a physical relationship (biological parents) with a spiritual relationship has already been delt with, I thought I would add this. You do realize that no one is born a "child of God". We are all born sinners, which means until one becomes a child of...

J.Jump None of the verses you cited show that salvation is a one-time event. Acts 16:30-31 30and after he brought them out, he said, "Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" The Jailer Converted 31They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household."...

I do not consider having faith in Jesus to save me, continuing to believe on Jesus, etc. a work, and I do not believe the Bible teaches such either. As I believe has already been adequately shown in that other thread dealing with this, I believe the Bible teaches otherwise. There are...