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  1. Dr. Bob

    Practice of Ordination of Elders/Pastors

    Not sure what larger body is parent to the Great Lakes Baptist. Do they have authority over a local church (who they may/may not ordain)? In my ministry we have done that basic standard, too. If a man feels a burden for vocational ministry, he meets with church where he is active to see if...
  2. Dr. Bob

    Ignoring Bad Lyrics

    Perhaps you did not understand my point - music is black notes on white paper. THAT is "neutral". Now what is DONE with that - the performance or presentation - can be anything BUT "neutral". Sadly,
  3. Dr. Bob

    Practice of Ordination of Elders/Pastors

    That was why I put a choice in the poll. In our city, the Lutheran (think WELS synod) ordain when candidate graduates from seminary. Get M.A. and Ordination certificate in folder. The United Methodists here have denomination prerequisites - certain schooling/training, internship, and state...
  4. Dr. Bob

    Pants on Women

    PS - I had to be reminded of MY modesty when preaching in one church where, after arriving, the church deacon took me aside and noticed I had short-sleeved shirt and also wearing wedding band/watch. He said please keep my coat on, since they did not want bare skin. A long-sleeved shirt would...
  5. Dr. Bob

    Pants on Women

    Joy of working with a variety of churches in State mission work. In that one, I had to interim nearly 18 months. Music team (not leading worship) did not realize how clothing appeared to audience. They were on raised platform so skirts looked shorter from audience perspective. And two-piece...
  6. Dr. Bob

    Practice of Ordination of Elders/Pastors

    When my sons were ordained, the local church had observed life/ministry/doctrine and simply held a service to ordain (with pastors invited in for the service, but not to question and recommend). Seems to be a new normal. (One GARBC church and one SBC church)
  7. Dr. Bob

    Practice of Ordination of Elders/Pastors

    This is a real problem. If a council of pastors is formed, USUALLY a service is planned so some of them (usually about half) will be close enough to stay and lay hands in a public showing in ordination. Can't ask them to come back another time. Some years ago we had a candidate who, in...
  8. Dr. Bob

    Grace for Grace

    "When I speak of a man “growing in grace,” I mean simply this – that his sense of sin is becoming deeper, his faith stronger, his hope brighter, his love more extensive, his spiritual-mindedness more marked. He feels more of the power of godliness in his own heart. He manifests more of it in his...
  9. Dr. Bob

    Grace for Grace

    As each wave of God's grace flowing over us ebbs, a new wave replaces it. Grace to His people is continuous, never exhausted, without interruption or limit. [adapted from Morris]
  10. Dr. Bob

    Practice of Ordination of Elders/Pastors

    March 6, 1973 was my ordination. I was ordained in the traditional manner of independent Baptists of Wisconsin where I was serving as a pastor. But there are other methods of ordination, and I'm interested in the general method/criteria practiced in your own life (if ordained) or in your group.
  11. Dr. Bob

    Pants on Women

    Some years ago, I had to ask gals in the worship team to be careful in what they wore, so that men would not think they were soliciting. Not pants in that case but short skirts and bare midriff, emphasized even more when raising hands and swaying to the beat. I asked the leader first to...
  12. Dr. Bob

    GARBC National Rep asked to resign

    Makes sense - thanks for clarification
  13. Dr. Bob

    Ignoring Bad Lyrics

    Hard to get across to some folks that our salvation was a "collateral" result of the cross. To me, of course, it was THE purpose. He Saved ME! I just didn't see the big picture. But that makes salvation personal, too.
  14. Dr. Bob

    GARBC National Rep asked to resign

    Resigned Dec 8 and only March 5 coming out??
  15. Dr. Bob

    Ignoring Bad Lyrics

    We could change some titles of hymns to reflect reality and NOT lie . . . Sweet 30 Seconds of Prayer Sitting on the Premises Come Thou Almighty Dollar No, Not Me I Surrender Some There Shall Be Sprinkles of Blessings Oh, How I Like Jesus Fill My Spoon, Lord I Love to Sing About Telling...
  16. Dr. Bob

    Ignoring Bad Lyrics

    I truly LOVE so many genres of music, but many do NOT belong in our church and worship. They are individual choices, and we all are touched or enjoy sounds and artists, styles or eras. My kids said how thankful they were that we exposed them to all these sounds, but that we sought to keep the...
  17. Dr. Bob

    Ignoring Bad Lyrics

    Ave Verum Corpus (Mozart) - King's College, Cambridge - YouTube
  18. Dr. Bob

    Ignoring Bad Lyrics

    Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord (Eph 5:19) gives us a basic outline for the church music Psalms = Scripture Hymns = from "celebrate", worship Who God is and What God has done Spiritual Songs = odes (pretty much...
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