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The idea of John 44-45 is that man cannot come to God except He takes the first steps toward man drawing him to Christ. As Calvin said, man is totally depraved, but where I disagree with Calvin is that the drawing of the Father toward man to Christ is done by the hearing of the Gospel, and...

Ok, whatever you say.

They could have come to Christ, but they chose not to. They simply did not believe He was the Christ.

Paul said that Christ thought it not robbery to be equal with God. But made Himself of no reputation and took upon Him the form of a servant. We have here a before and after the incarnation. It's my opinion He was speaking of the Father being greater while in His humanity, being a servant...

I thought Christ said, "whosoever will let him come." And then He shows the mercy.

Is there a JW talk forum where I can become a member as a Baptist and teach the opposite of what you're teaching?

If the drawing is salvation then all men would be saved, but we know that's not the case. And you will change the definition of "all men" to mean only the elect, how foolish can that be? But as Elvis said, you're caught in a trap, you can't look back, you're indoctrinated with Calvinism.

If you can't understand that all men are drawn to Christ through the Cross and convicted by the Spirit of their lost condition, then free will has escaped you and will never be understood. "If I be lifted up, will draw all me unto me." If you deny all men are drawn through Christ on the...

Inactive costed a stripe. I've heard of a few of those situations at Bragg when they came back.

8 years is normal, 4 active, 4 reserves. Top rank E6 earned in the reserves.

My brother was in the Navy at about the same time you were in the AF. I joined the Army sometime later, 74-78, E6,11B, 82nd Airborne Division, Ft. Bragg, NC.

The Calvinist can't accept Paul's words that "God is the Savior of all men." That would mean the atonement was" the satisfaction for the sins of the whole world," as John said, the Calvinist can't accept that either. It's said in the tense that God is the Savior of all who believe, there is...

I wasn't sure that he was doing that either. I was just pointing out the time frame between Luke and Matthews accounts.

I know it's hypothetical, but Joseph left Nazareth to go pay his taxes. Why would he be in a house in Bethlehem with a young Jesus when his home was in Nazareth?

There's no reason for this to be taken spiritually. We follow a different set of hermeneutics. No need to pursue it any further, we will never agree. but that's ok. Nothing we say or believe can change what the Lord has already determined.

The Scripture doesn't say they found Him in Bethlehem. The "Star of Bethlehem" that led them is in much controversy.

Do you think maybe it took a considerable amount of time for the wise men to find Christ, being that He was now in a house (maybe Nazareth) and not the stable where He was born.

This reminds me of my Dad, saved at 75, that's a miracle in itself. The Church had some land that had grown up and Dad had a tractor and bush hog, so he asked the Pastor if he would like for it to be cleaned up. That was his part he was happy to do. He kept in looking good, and did other...

I may have been having one of my dizzy spells when I said that, BF. Never mind me, you go with what you believe.

You put me to work on that one. I knew I had read it somewhere but took a while to find it. Don't do Ol' Charlie like this, it's to much work. Rev. 2:25-27 "But that which ye have already hold fast till I come. And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give...