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Her Here's the difference. In scripture, believers were baptized confirming their faith. If they are taught to confirm their faith (salvation) by going forward, that would be fine. But they are taught that their decision saved them instead. It is not only unscriptural, it short circuits their...

In my case, I know Christ died for me because of the Spirit bearing witness with my spirit. I know that as sinful as I am left to my own strength I could not believe it unless He imparted the new birth first. The bible tells me so.

That would be ideal, but in real life, the preachers convert them into thinking they saved themselves. This happened to me and I could not escape until I dropped out of Church completely.

Jesus says whoever believes has eternal life. If you make one of these think they saved themselves by an act of the will, you are undermining Christ and salvation by grace. You replace grace with works. If you must decide to believe, it is only because you do not believe in any true sense.

Whatever is not of faith is sin. Says Paul

They have Adam's imputed sin.

This is not about salvation. It's about Law keeping. Most of the Jews were wicked beyond belief, even burning their children alive. Study up and see the difference.

As I said, you are taking two totally different audiences and combining them which nullifies all that Paul said.

“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Genesis 6:5 (KJV 1900)

Your mistake is in trying to compare Paul's spiritual aspects of all people with the Old Testament Law. Many kept the Law carnal-mindedly and were righteous in that sense. But they still were not saved. Once you learn this difference you might grasp the deeper meaning of the New Testament.

Why do babies die in the womb? Because of Adam's imputed sin. The wages of sin is death.

Any accredited degrees in ancient Greek?

“The wicked are estranged from the womb: They go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.” Psalm 58:3 (KJV 1900) “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:” Romans 3:10 (KJV 1900) The wages of sin is death and babies die every day in the womb.

What causes people to sin other than their wicked hearts? Why do infants die in the womb if not sinful? The wages of sin is death.

Our flesh remains sinful until death. Paul lamented about the wretched man he was.

What you are missing is my point that faith alone is evidence God saved a person. The saved went forward not knowing they were already saved. And Then Billy gave them false directions on how to save themselves by making a decision. This is decisional regeneration and is not found anywhere in...

There are two ways of reading these passages. 1. How to recognize those God saves by their works. Or 2. Assuming their works saved them. These are two different gospels.

Our substance is sin. Do you think abortion saves any before the supposed age of accountability?

Deal with the Bible. Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit you must have before you can have biblical faith.

You have it wrong. How so? You ad"Chooses" to believe making it a work of the flesh. Whoever believes is a trait of the born-again. It tells them and others that God saved them. It's the evidence of things not seen.