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What makes you think so? Aside from Revelation, I thought there was general consensus about when the rest of the NT was written. For Revelation, there is very strong evidence for an early dating, which I'll get into in a bit. This would be the same Irenaeus who said that Jesus lived into His...

Now I feel as though I've led a sheltered life. I had no idea there were so many.

What do you think the Abomination of Desolation was? I've recently read a theory that it could have been the apostate Jewish priesthood in the Temple.

What are the differences between the different Baptist churches? I only know SBC views.

I must confess that I know very little of Baptist doctrine outside of the Southern Baptist Convention. I'm not familiar with the Baptist union, but they certainly do sound very liberal. Are they "wannabe Methodists", or trying to go "mainline" Protestant?

I meant to welcome you earlier, Brother. This is a great place to discuss our views in a friendly environment. We don't always agree on doctrine, but there's no reason we can't treat each other as brothers in Christ.

If Revelation was written in the 60s, as we preterists believe, there is no reason the book would not have reached the majority of Christians in the Roman Empire before its fulfillment. At the very least, this would have reached the 7 churches that John specifically addressed the "letter" to...

As a partial preterist, even I am surprised at that:Coffee. I wonder if this has just started. Personally, I am hopeful that it catches on in the Baptist circles. For that matter, throughout all of Christendom.

The more that people study history - especially the history of the Jewish Wars, the more they will realize the preterist view makes perfect sense. @Gorship is a smart guy, and I'm sure he will make up his own mind. Whether or not he sticks to the preterist view, at least he is giving this an...

You reject what I present as undeniable proof, just as I reject what you view as proof.

So you keep trying to tell us. Except, the proof is in their fulfillment.

That's deep, Brother. There is obviously much more to Covenant Theology than I had imagined.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! That's been driving me nuts, but I couldn't figure it out.

I didn't think so, but as you wish. Take care.

It only played out that way when you took my misquoted reference and ran with it. Not that I blame you, as I did make it easy for you. But, in so doing, you are making the parallel passage in Luke to be a completely separate event so you can bypass your "oikumene" problem. That simply ain't...

Why would oikumene be any less important than kosmos? Oikumene makes a "world" of difference (pun intended):D. This was used in Matthew 24:14, where Jesus predicted that the gospel shall be preached in the whole world (Roman Empire), and then the end shall come. This came to pass just as He...

It's only a "closed case" if you ignore Luke's account of the Olivet Discourse. We can both agree that oikumene would make this a game changer.

Thank you. I really didn't know which time periods you put together.

My argument is from these two accounts of the Olivet Discourse. You are okay with using "kosmos" from Matthew's gospel because it fits your view. You are ignoring "oikumene" from Luke's gospel because it could present a problem.

If you don't mind, I'd like to ask a question. Where do you see the 7 years of tribulation in the Bible? Revelation has several periods of 3 1/2 years, but none of 7 years? I am guessing that you put a couple of these back-to-back. If this is the case, what specific passages make up this 7...