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    The New International Version (NIV)

    Very well said Alexander. I fully agree.
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    True, but the New Testament has its share of awkward phraseology as well. They say that 6% of the text was changed from the 1971 RSV edition. Over the years on the BB I have given many examples of passages that need to be reworded. Perhaps the ESV team could condescend and actually take a...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Lamentations 1:5 ESV : Her foes have become the head NIV : Her foes have become her masters 1:20 ESV : my heart is wrung within me NIV : in my heart I am disturbed 2:12 ESV : They cry to their mothers...as they faint like a wounded man...as their life is poured out on their mothers' bosom NIV...
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    Howmany hear Looking forward to the Legacy Standard Bible?

    It is a choice between hearing and looking?
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    The New International Version (NIV)

    You are languishing in the wilderness of pseudo-English.
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Hosea 10: 11 ESV : Jacob must harrow for himself NIV : Jacob must break up the ground 10:15 ESV : Thus NIV : So 11:4 ESV : I became to them as one who NIV : To them I was like one who 11:8 ESV : My heart recoils within me NIV : My heart is changed within me 13:4 ESV : besides me there is no...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Hosea 8:2 ESV : To me they cry, My God, we, --Israel ---know you. NIV : Israel cries out to me, Our God, we acknowledge you! 8:4 ESV : They set up princes, but I knew it not. NIV : they choose princes without my approval. 8:10 ESV : the king and princes shall soon writhe because of the...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    I used to have a book by Bill Bryson called Mother Tongue. It's fascinating as it details in a humorous manner the history and oddities of words. One of those words that he mentioned was silly. It has undergone several changes in meaning over the centuries. Before it became commonplace for it to...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Hosea 5: 1 ESV : Give ear NIV : Listen 5:2 ESV : the revolters have gone deep into slaughter NIV : The rebels are knee-deep in slaughter 5:4 ESV : they know not NIV : they do not 5:9 ESV : I make known what is sure. NIV : I proclaim what is certain. 6:8 ESV : tracked with blood. NIV ...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Hosea 2:3 ESV : lest NIV : Otherwise 2:4 ESV : Upon her children also I will have no mercy NIV : I will not show my love to her children 2:6 ESV : I will hedge her up NIV : I will block her path 2:11 ESV : I will put an end to all her mirth NIV : I will stop all her celebrations 2:12 ESV ...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    More From Joel 2:2 ESV : their like has never been before NIV : such as never was in ancient times 2:11 ESV : The Lord utters his voice before his army, for his camp is exceedingly great NIV : The Lord thunders at the head of his army; his forces are beyond number 3:4 ESV : What are you to me...
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    50,000+ posts

    This month Y-1 has 960 posts. In a little less than four months, I have made (including this one) 928 posts. I think I post a lot; but it is a great deal less than the amount that Y-1 pumps out. I am concerned about Y-1's posting history. His posts are largely fact-free. If he would reduce his...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Amos 5:3 ESV : The city that went out a thousand NIV : Your city that marches out a thousand strong 5:10 ESV : They hate him who reproves in the gate NIV : There are those who hate the one who upholds justice in court 5:16 ESV : They shall call the farmers to mourning NIV : The farmers will...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Amos 1:5 ESV : cut off the inhabitants from the Valley of Aven NIV : I will destroy the king who is in the Valley of Aven 2:14 ESV : Flight shall perish from the swift NIV : The swift will not escape 4:1 ESV : Bring that we may drink! NIV : Bring us some drinks! 4:6 ESV : I gave you...
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    The reading level of different versions

    Your alternatives are certainly possible.
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Malachi 1:13 ESV : What a weariness this is NIV : What a burden! 3:5 ESV : I will be a swift witness....against those who thrust aside the sojourner NIV : I will be quick to testify....deprive the foreigners among you of justice 3:8 ESV : Will man rob God? NIV : Will a mere mortal rob God...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Zephaniah 1: 17 ESV : I will bring distress on mankind NIV : I will bring such distress all people 2:15 ESV : This is the exultant city NIV : This is the city of revelry 3:4 ESV : Her prophets are fickle NIV : Her prophets are unprincipled 3:16 ESV : let not your hands grow weak NIV : do not...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Habakkuk 1:3 ESV : Why do you make me see iniquity, and why do you idly look at wrong? NIV : Why do you make me look at injustice? Why do you tolerate wrongdoing? 1:7 ESV : their justice and dignity go forth from themselves NIV : they are a law to themselves and promote their own honor 1:13...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Nahum 1:14 ESV : The Lord has given commandment about you NIV : The Lord has given a command concerning you 2:5 ESV : He remembers his officers NIV : Nineveh summons her picked troops 2:10 ESV : anguish is in all loins NIV : bodies tremble 3:8 ESV : her rampart a sea NIV : The river was her...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Jonah 1:5 ESV : had lain down NIV : where he lay down 1:12 ESV : for I know it is because of me that this great tempest has come upon you. NIV : I know it is my fault that this great storm has come upon you. 1:14 ESV : let us not perish NIV : do not let us die 2:7 ESV : When my life was...
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