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  1. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    Jesus spoke of "great tribulation", but not of "the Great tribulation". I use this in the same sense that 1 John 4 and 2 John 1 use the term "antichrist", but "futurists" maintain that "the Antichrist" is coming. But I digress. The Jewish War of 66-70 was indeed "great tribulation". I...
  2. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    I'll concede that it could, but wouldn't Jesus have said "that generation"? Also, He says "when you see", not "when they see".
  3. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    I meant to reply earlier, but the best laid plans of mice and men... One of the main reasons I changed to the Partial Preterist view was a different view of the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21). For our discussion, I'll stick with Matthew 24. In verse 3, the asked Jesus...
  4. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    I appreciate your consideration for my color-blind issues. I'm really looking forward to all the colors I will see in Heaven. I agree that the Old Testament prophecies certainly came to pass in the literal sense. We seem to be in agreement regarding part of the Olivet Discourse, as He was...
  5. Lodic

    Of Freedom of the Will

    I know that the "never truly saved" is a common argument for OSAS, but I'm not convinced. (Then again, I'm not quite as convinced of my opposing view since we've been on this discussion.) 1 John 2:24-27 speaks of letting the truth remain in you. Therefore, it's possible for us to let it go...
  6. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    A favor, please. am red/green color-blind, so the red text is hard to read. (On the other hand, I know the passage, and I can always highlight it.) I believe the Dispensationalist view is filled with errors. That is why I left that view about a dozen years ago. Jesus prophesied that...
  7. Lodic

    Ever heard this doctrine......?

    Perfectly. Thank you for a thorough explanation. Agree 100%.
  8. Lodic

    Of Freedom of the Will

    As I understand it, if a real Christian completely rejected Christ, he has become apostate. Remember that Paul admonishes us to "finish the race" (1 Cor. 9:24-27). This means there are those who do not finish the race they have begun. In 2 Peter 2:20-22, the Apostle speaks of the danger of...
  9. Lodic

    Ever heard this doctrine......?

    I'm not quite sure I understand (but then again, I'm not the sharpest knife in the kitchen). Are you saying that you agree with the doctrine that Robycop brought up in this post? Yes, Jesus was sent to the lost sheep of Israel. Israel rejected Him when they cried out "crucify Him". According...
  10. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    On the other hand, I believe Partial Preterism is the proper interpretation. I believe the "End Times" refers to the end of the Jewish system, which culminated with the destruction of the Temple in AD 70. Of course, I don't believe in the rapture, either. All of that being said, I do not...
  11. Lodic

    Ever heard this doctrine......?

    I may be wrong, but I was listening to Hank Hanegraaf (the Bible Answer Man) the other day, and he said that John Hagee promotes this doctrine. To paraphrase one of your own quotes, "that is as false as a Chevy Mustang". (BTW - I do hope that I'm wrong about Hagee.) Couldn't agree more...
  12. Lodic

    Ever heard this doctrine......?

    I may be wrong, but I was listening to Hank Hanegraaf (the Bible Answer Man) the other day, and he said that John Hagee promotes this doctrine. To paraphrase one of your own quotes, "that is as false as a Chevy Mustang". (BTW - I do hope that I'm wrong about Hagee.)
  13. Lodic

    Of Freedom of the Will

    While He is speaking directly to the angel / messenger of each of the 7 churches, it's a message to their churches. No, I'm not saying that no one really knows for sure since we don't usually know when we are going to die. That would be too much like a "works-based" salvation, which we both...
  14. Lodic

    Of Freedom of the Will

    Each of us come to Christ with the hope that we will spend eternity with Him. I am convinced that if I died right now, I would go straight to Heaven. I also believe Christians who become apostate lose their hope of Heaven unless they turn to Christ again. While I'm no expert in languages, I...
  15. Lodic

    Of Freedom of the Will

    Between you and a couple of the others on this conversation, you give me a lot to think about. I'm not quite as sure of my view as I was at the beginning. That's not to say that I'm fully convinced, but I know that I may be wrong.
  16. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    Thank you. There are so many different views regarding the End Times that it can be difficult to keep them straight.
  17. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    Yes to both parts of your question.
  18. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    What's the difference in those views, if you don't mind my asking?
  19. Lodic

    Premillennium, Amillennium, Postmillennium

    I voted "Amillennium" because that's the closest to my view. To be completely honest, I hold a "Partial Preterist" view of prophecy, where I believe that most (but not all) prophecy was fulfilled in the Jewish War, ending with the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple (AD 66-70). I don't...
  20. Lodic

    Of Freedom of the Will

    This has been a really great conversation - especially since you present such sound arguments. While I'm not convinced that I am wrong, I'm not as sure that I am right either. Lots to ponder.
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