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    New NASB Update

    The first formulation was in 325 --The Council of Nicaea. And they didn't use the term 'begotten' because they spoke and wrote in Greek.
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    An American Translation

    ATT (Goodspeed) 1 Corinthians 13: 4-7 Love is not envious or boastful. It does not put on airs. It is not rude. It does not insist on its rights. It does not become angry. It is not resentful. It is not happy over injustice, it is only happy with truth. It will bear anything, believe...
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    Translate This

    In the following is a discussion of Dr. Phillips and Dr. E.V. Rieu by F.F. Bruce. It is found in The Bible Translator of 1955, but the actual dialog transpired on Dec. 3, 1953. "Both translators were in perfect agreement about the principle of equivalent effect, and Dr. Rieu made an important...
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    An American Translation

    AAT (Goodspeed) Philippians 4:8,9 Now, brothers, let your minds dwell on what is true, what is worthy, what is right, what is pure, what is amiable, what is kindly -- on everything that is excellent or praiseworthy. Do the things that you learned, received, and heard from me, and that you saw...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Robert has been 'translated' to Glory. Bill is now with the CBT team.
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Proverbs 24 v. 1 ESV : Be not envious NIV : Do not envy v.6 ESV : in abundance of counselors there is victory NIV : victory is won by through many advisers v. 10 ESV : If you faint in the day of adversity NIV : If you falter in a time of trouble v. 15 ESV : Lie not in wait as a wicked man...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Yes, instead, they've passed over it.
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Proverbs 22 v. 9 ESV : Whoever has a bountiful eye will be blessed NIV : The generous will themselves be blessed v. 22 ESV : Do not rob the poor, because he is poor NIV : Do not exploit the poor because they are poor v. 26 ESV : Be not one NIV : Do not be one Proverbs 23 v. 6 ESV : Do not...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Proverbs 21 v.4 ESV : the lamp of the wicked are sin. NIV : the unplowed field of the field of the wicked --- produce sin. v. 18 ESV : The wicked is a ransom NIV : The wicked become a ransom for the righteous v.26 ESV : the righteous gives and does not hold back NIV : the righteous give...
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    How Many here Like Gender inclusive translations?

    The NET Bible Preface contains a large section devoted to the subject of inclusive language. I'll quote just one paragraph. "With the NET Bible our concern was to be gender-accurate rather than gender-inclusive, striving for faithfulness to the original biblical texts while at the same time...
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    Definitions Again

    Even though it doesn't use the reader's response in the literature, especially the Preface of the NIV? It's not a matter of good men differing. You said :"So to willy nilly call this or that translation DE without showing where it seeks reader response is irresponsible." I say your remark is...
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    How Many Here Go for NASO?

    It's a bit confusing when you duplicate negatives in the sentence. To state it positively :The THGNT will only make use of Greek manuscripts dated before 500 AD. And that is a generally good idea. But what about minuscule 1739? Even though it is from the 10th century, it often agrees with P46...
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    The English Standard Version (ESV)

    I will cite some other versions: REB : Glory to God in highest heaven, and on earth peace to all in whom he delights. CEB : Glory to God in heaven, and on earth peace among those whom he favors. NJB : Glory to God in the highest heaven, and on earth peace for those he favours. NIV : Glory to...
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    Definitions Again

    You have contradicted yourself. On 6/9/2013 you said "Again, my argument against the NIV is the translation theory behind it, dynamic equivalence." On 6/11/2013 you said : "So, it's good to read that you finally acknowledge the NIV translation method as DE/FE!" Another quote of yours from the...
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    How Many Here Go for NASO?

    I don't understand the above. Could you please explain.
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    An American Translation

    2 Peter 1:16-18 AAT (Goodspeed) For they were no fictitious stories that we followed when we informed you of the power of our Lord Jesus Christ and of his coming, but we had been eyewitnesses of his majesty. For when he was so honored and glorified by God the Father and from the supreme glory...
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    How Many Here Go for NASO?

    You make up words that don't exist also.
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    How Many Here Go for NASO?

    In your case you have raised unjustified, invalid reasons. That's because you have never produced proof from the actual text. If it's not in the text, it doesn't exist. Propagating fiction is not Christian.
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    An American Translation

    Romans 3:10b --18 in the AAT (Goodspeed) There is not a single man who is upright,No one understands, no one searches for God. All have turned away, they are one and all worthless, No one does right, not a single one! Their throats are like open graves, They use their tongues to deceive; The...
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    The NIV In Comparison to the ESV. Part 3

    Snippets from Proverbs 20 v. 3 ESV : It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife NIV : It's to one's honor to avoid strife v. 6 ESV : Many a man proclaims his own steadfast love NIV : Many claim to have unfailing love v. 7 ESV: The righteous who walks in his integrity NIV : The...
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