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Hi Yeshua1, Ok. I know we disagree but what I’m interested in is detailed explanations that really break everything down. If we don’t do that all we really are doing is making assertions. For example, you could go back and read my first post and maybe you could tell me precisely where it is...

Hi Yeshua1, What does Hope and Charity do?

Hi Yeshua1, Rom 8:24 says you are saved by “Hope”. So, right there, proves you are not saved by Faith alone. Then, 1 Cor 13:2 says if I have “Faith” to move mountains and have not “Charity” I am nothing. Then in 1 Cor 13:13 it lists Faith, Hope and Charity and says the greatest is Charity.

Hi Yeshua1, “Believing” is a Prevenient Grace.

Hi Everyone, For your information, I am going to be off until the new year except to answer any posts. In January I will be out of town for a couple of weeks but don’t worry I’ll be back! You made me feel welcome. Half the time I want to continue my studies and, maybe the other half, post on...

Hi Yeshua1, The verse means (Eph 4:30) is that you can fall away after Baptism. The parallel verse is Acts 7:51 which says you can “Resist” the Holy Ghost. We call this “Sufficient Grace” instead of “Efficacious Grace”. Not all grace is Irresistible. “Sealed unto the day of Redemption” means you...

Hi Yeshua1, We would say the key words are those “In Christ”. We believe those “In Christ” can change (Rom 8:1). There are a few “If’s” in Rom 8.

Hi Everyone, St. Augustine - Prevenient Grace I thought I needed to say a couple of things about St. Augustine. I know many of you would know Leighton Flowers, who is a Traditionalist Baptist and probably also know the Reformed Baptist, James White. Are those titles alright? Anyway, if you do...

Hi Yeshua1, Instead of talking about the blood, I’ll take a different approach: If you are judged by God at the time of your death (Heb 9:27) how can you be judged before that time? That’s the way we would look at it. Calvinism seems to place the time of this judgement before we are conceived...

Hi Dave G, You’re giving me more good info! I have to say that in this case I agree more with the Traditionalists. We believe in Operative AND Cooperative Grace too. Calvinists believe only in Operative Grace. St Augustine believe in Both (On Nature and Grace, Ch 33 (17). No, I see Calvinists on...

Hi Dave G, I love all the info! Don’t worry about your posts being too long. Lol It helps me understand more. I understand generally the different groups but not much further than that “Execpt” for the Calvinists. I seemed to have gravitated to Calvinism. It intrigued me when I first realized...

Hi Yeshua1, We believe we can have “Confidence” (1 John 5:13-14) we are going to heaven but cannot have “Absolute Assurance”. Really Purgatory doesn’t have anything to do with going to heaven or hell because Purgatory is a temporary state and abode (place). I don’t want to defend Purgatory right...

Hi Dave G, Hi Dave G, Its’s some good information and good thinking you are sharing with me and I want to thank you. Your paragraph that starts “Most non-traditionalist “Calvinists” I agree with. I think what Traditionalists, Arminians and Catholics would disagree with is that Calvinists say...

Hi Dave G, You know, Dave, we believe God is going to divide those who believe from the heart and those who don’t believe too “At the End” but what I honestly think Calvinists are doing is “Dividing at the beginning”. I realized this when I was exegeting Rom 9:22. I realized Calvinists exegete...

Hi Everyone, Example of Prevenient Grace in Scripture: Calvin used this one: Raising of Lazarus (John 11) Calvin’s Institutes (3,4,5) Here is the usual Reformed Argument: “What did Lazarus (Free Will) have to do with His own raising from the dead? Jesus did it all. It is all “Irresisitible”...

Hi Dave G, What I meant by Justification is that sin is dealt with there; not only past sins but your future sins as far as forgiveness. I realize you believe you still are going to commit sin and that God’s Efficacious Grace will eventually help you to overcome them in the Sanctification...

Hi Gave G, I agree with Grace being permanent. I haven’t figured out what Calvin and Berkhof meant by a “Holy Disposition”. A “Holy Disposition” is what they say you receive when you are Regenerated. I don’t know why they don’t use the term “Grace”. This “Holy Disposition” might mean sort of an...

Hi Dave G, Man I like your insights and your questions. They seem charitable and from the heart. That’s good apologetics. Kind of like “Thinking out loud” as I like to say. You say your “Will” is transformed which I can accept but when you sin after this transformation, Calvin is saying it’s...

Hi Dave G, It’s really great you quoted Luke 1. I thought the same thing about the Blessed Mother. We believe the effect of the same Grace can either be “Efficacious” or what we call “Sufficient”. Efficacious Grace would be like more of what you are thinking with the verses you quoted. The...

Hi Yeshua1, I believe it’s true we are not saved by Faith alone. This is what Prevenient Grace is all about. The Gift of Faith is a Prevenient Grace (See post #1). They are necessary but Charity has to be in your soul as well. Charity is Sanctifying Grace (Gal 5:6). I really think if you...