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    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View

    Hi Yeshua1, I know the word “Merit” is supercharged but we can’t Merit Justification as I mentioned in post #1 and #6. We can’t Merit Glory either. Canon i. If any one shall say, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the strength of human nature, or through...
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    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View

    Hi Everyone, Part #2 2. Calvin - View on Grace in the Soul Calvin - Institutes Prevenient Grace - Denied 2,3,7 Calvin: ....But perhaps some will concede that the will is turned away from the good by its own nature and is converted by the Lord’s power alone, yet in such a way that, having...
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    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View

    #4A Thread: Prevenient Grace - Catholic View Part # 1 This was intended to be the continuation to my original post. I thought I would do 2 things in this post: 1. Speak a a little more on Prevenient Grace - specifically on Prophecy (Part #1) 2. Calvin - Denial of Prevenient Grace and...
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    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View

    Hi Everyone, Follow up to Original Post I’m just “thinking out loud”, as my dad use to say, when I write these. Lol I was working on a different paper as a follow up to the original post giving a little more info on Prevenient Grace and giving a good example of it in Scripture but My thoughts...
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    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View

    Hi Yeshua1, We see these two intertwined under Perseverance: Sanctification seems more to do with becoming holy and Justification seems more to do with Confessing and Repenting of sin. Rom 8:30 only mentions “Justification” and not Sanctification but we see both of them there. Berkoff clearly...
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    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View

    I may have a follow-up post in a couple of days if the thread is still active.
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    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View

    Prevenient Grace - Catholic View [ Ps 58:11 DRV (Ps 59:10 KJV); Ps 78:8 DRV (Ps 79:8 KJV)] I want to talk about Prevenient Grace from a Catholic point of view. I thought I should start a new thread. If you hang in there with me on this I think you will walk away with more understanding, more...
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    PREVENIENT GRACE: AN ARMINIAN ERROR

    I mean I am Roman Catholic.
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    PREVENIENT GRACE: AN ARMINIAN ERROR

    Hi Barry, Awesome! I agree. I especially like Jer 7:15.
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    PREVENIENT GRACE: AN ARMINIAN ERROR

    Hi Barry, We would likewise agree with Dr Roger Olson on this one and partially with the Calvinists on what you said so far. I heard Dr Roger Olson say one time he believed in a sort of “Half-Regeneration” prior to Justification. I agree and understand where he is coming from. I really do...
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    Calvin’s Institutes: God’s Repentance

    Hi Scott, I think I see what you are saying. He didn’t have to use the word “If” because he said 40 and they probably knew what that meant. Thank you!
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    Calvin’s Institutes: God’s Repentance

    Hi Yeshua1, I think I found the answer. Here’s what Berkof says under his section on the Immutability of God: “In reality the change is not in God, but in man and in man’s relations to God. It is important to maintain the immutability of God over against the Pelagian and Arminian doctrine that...
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    Calvin’s Institutes: God’s Repentance

    I agree. God’s Will covers all contingencies.
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    The Philosophy of Calvinism

    Thanks Jon C. I’ll have to study this a little.
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    Calvin’s Institutes: God’s Repentance

    Hi Everyone, I thought I would go ahead and give my interpretation. It is incomplete but here’s my thoughts: My Comment: Calvin believes man’s Natural Free Will, by definition, either cannot receive grace or it receives grace but moves the Will by “Compulsion”. Either way, it seems the Will...
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    Calvin’s Institutes: God’s Repentance

    Hi Everyone, Please see my comment after Calvin’s quote. Thanks! Calvin - Institutes Providence - God’s Repentance - Examples 1,17,14 (book, chapter, section) Jon 3:10 (D-R) And God saw their works, that they were turned from their evil way: and God had mercy with regard to the evil which he...
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    Calvinism : Questions

    Hi Ben, Of course, this has always been my position too but I’m trying to understand the Calvinist Position correctly. It’s my understanding that Calvinists believe that because God Foreknows something is going to happen God caused it to happen. At least God caused it to happen by not providing...
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    Calvinism Question : How does God work through the Soul?

    Hi Everyone, I want to thank you for all your Charity and time. I got a few insights into this subject. I do have more questions and I’ll put another one on a new thread next week. Thanks again!
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    Calvinism Question : How does God work through the Soul?

    (see my responses inside your quote) Hi Van, Hi LaGrange, I do not think "Calvinist Theology" (the TULI of the Tulip) is the correct understanding of scripture. Yes I am, or like to think I am, a mainstream Baptist. Calvinists use a lot of terms, such as irresistible grace, but when defined...
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    Calvinism Question : How does God work through the Soul?

    Hi Van, I understand what you are saying but Calvinist Theology teaches Irresistible Grace and Total Depravity. I realize Total Depravity isn’t there during the Sanctification Process but Irresistible Grace is (On this forum some have told me there’s depravity but not total depravity). I think...
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