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The "twelve hundred years" were the years preceding the Reformation in which Rome persecuted Baptists with the most cruel persecution thinkable. Sir Isaac Newton: "The Baptists are the only body of known Christians that have never symbolized with Rome." Mosheim (Lutheran): "Before the rise of...

Yes, but remember many were persecuted almost out of existence through the ages. Many survived by being in remote areas

I think the key doctrines must exist back to Paul., individual responsibility, believers Baptism, etc. no matter what names were used. Other doctrinal differences occurred but the NT ideas must be present

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The argument presented by Martin Luther is wrong. Free Will is not evident by action to fulfill a desire. It has having the desire without coercion. It is not the ability to choice correctly not the ability to understand all choices and consequences. Nicodemus is not about Free Will at all...

Then you also agree, God chooses on His own to not elect some and continue to Hell

It is the same word for a Christian service, It is not involuntary servitude

it is a mantra, to reject scripture and establish it is not ones fault, It is a trick of the devil.

what is it for then? If one is chosen to be saved , another is not chosen, How is it not choosing one to go to hell "before the foundation of the world"?

explain that

you are saying nothing, a legalistic that thinks good behavior allows you to get out or death row. you pick and choose verses you want to obey, A legalistic thinks they can help God

Can someone show a case that says the Natural man, without spiritual discernment, becomes the lost man with spiritual discernment?

What verse says " bondage to sin ?

He that hath the Son hath life, he that hath not the Son hath not life What can you add?

Are you saying Jesus must have been incorrect?

We know God did not judge us We know Jesus does not judge flesh and blood.

The verse says you are condemned already and remain in that state until you believe. KEEPING A LAW does not matter. The condemned prisoner on death row getting a good behavior award does not change the sentence.

clever

yes, but we did not get it from Adam. Why did Adam sin, where did he get sin nature?

Do ya'll realize what is the scripture reference?