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I'm sure ITL will come around. He respects science. In fact, it would do him some good to get on the golf course himself. Improves mood. It would probably help Biden also, but he'll never leave that basement.

Not funny at all. It's funny you don't think golfing is not exercise for a septuagenarian. What do you want him doing, triathlons? LOL!

Trump likens his golf to exercise, which he says keeps his energy up and helps him accomplish more. I think his work ethic has proven this. Obama, really was MIA during his reign. That's what many were complaining about. Trump, like him or not, gets things done. If golf exercise is...

Well, poor hermeneutics, to be sure, which helps blasphemous interpretations.

Case closed. These passages are not referring to Jesus, but the creation of Jesus.

I agree. I was referring to the response you were quoting.

All I can say is you've been terribly deceived. This passage has nothing to do with the sonship issue. There are many who agree with you on that doctrine that don't rely in this specific passage. I'm on the fence, but I learned long ago this passage is not a reference to Christ. And to take...

I have to say, it is one of the weirdest responses I've ever read on a forum. Head-scratcher.

Not to mention the feminine pronouns. It's a no-brainer.

JWs have long believed Wisdom personified was Jesus, and use these passages to prove Jesus was a god (little g) who was brought into existence. In their phony bible translation (New World Translation) they take out all the female pronouns.

You're very confused. JWs agree with you, that personified Wisdom is Jesus. It's you that's holding hands with JWs in their false doctrine. I'm telling you, it is not Jesus. Jesus created wisdom. So sad you can't see this, and you're willing to argue with all Bible translations to affirm...

The irony here is, it is Jesus (God) who brought Wisdom into existence. I think your best course of action is to let this one go (it's not essential to your argument). Much easer than debating just about every Bible translation available.

As Walter Martin used to say (God bless him), the average JW will twist the average Christian into a doctrinal pretzel, at least on these specific verses they've been trained (and mislead on). Proverbs 8 explicitly says personified Wisdom came into existence. The personification is female. It...

Because at least 37 Dems have already voted for her in the past, admitting she was perfectly qualified. Now they have to explain why they've suddenly changed their mind, and face political backlash for doing so.

If a JW comes to your door, he/she's going to eat your lunch over this. They also believe the personified wisdom in this passage is the pre-incarnate Christ. Problem is, they cite Proverbs 8 to show he was created. 12 “I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence; I possess knowledge...

Larry C. Johnson: Trump’s Ladies of the Court Again, the thing that stands out is Logoa's easy confirmation. The vote for the others was much more narrow. And seems she's been vetted, both at the state and federal level. I have a feeling some serous additional vetting is going on right now.

Wow, even Ginsburg agreed the President and Senate have the right to confirm a new SCJ in an election year. Ginsburg In 2016: ‘Nothing In Constitution’ Prevents President From Final Year SCOTUS Pick

Now this may be an argument that drives the opposition, and I can se why. I don't think the hierarchal relationship has ever changed in the Trinity and don't see evidence of this.

Yes, I get the argument. I would say the second person of the Trinity never changed in the God aspect of his nature. But I do believe he took on flesh. John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from...

Well that's a different issue, but it's a lie that he believes the blood of Jesus does not save. He's preached it for years and years. He has years of audio to prove it and posts it for anyone who doubts. The Blood of Christ MacArthur rightly, however, attaches the necessary death of Christ...