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Maybe they're idiots? Why would you ask it? Do I claim to have access to their internal mental states??? Do you think I claimed to? Is that what you think? I don't have to answer for them LOGOS.... I'M not KJVO... I know.... I'm not KJVO...so I don't care what they say LOGOS... Why are you so...

Roby, really, I mean, really doesn't know what he's talking about. He obsesses over it... His hatred of the KJV knows no bounds, and he's spent (as far as I can tell) the better part of a decade of his life convincing erstwhile Bible-believers to hate their Bibles...but, he honestly knows very...

Arguments from Analogy are faulty by their nature and for good reason. Educated people know this already. That is a stupid comparison. The King James Version bears no relation to a Model T car.... You know nothing of etymology or the evolution of the English Language. Language does not change...

I know......good for you.

A lot further is needed. And people who have actually studied the topic know that. You don't know that, because you haven't meaningfully studied that passage before and don't really know how to. But, I've heard the non-arguments like this for ages. You not only assume too much when you read...

Those aren't "simple facts"... Here's the reality. Often "hell" is used to refer to the temporary abode of the dead in the intermediate state... Often it is conflated with the final state of the non-believer after the judgement....More biblically described as the lake of fire. Frankly, in real...

"hell" is not a Biblical term. at all. I don't think we should even use it at all, because it simply is not a Theological equivalent to hades Gehenna Sheol or anything else. Even Sheol and Hades are not equivalent, so it isn't helpful to try to translate them with an English word (especially...

I'm talking about the "Yeshua" who is posting on the internet right now, "SPORTZZ FAN" Not Jesus Christ. I know the words Jesus used. Unlike you, I actually can read some Greek. You're not even reading the thread closely.

Because I don't deny that the Lake of fire is "Eternal". The fires of God's wrath are described as "eternal". Everywhere the fate of the damned is described they are described as going into an "Everlasting Fire". The assumption you are making is that God intentionally grants people eternal life...

No, you assume it. And it's hardly self-evident that that is what the passages teaches. It is a very weak passage to assert unequivocally that degrees of punishment are being taught here. And an eternal process of punishing with infinite amounts of suffering cannot justify a limited number of...

I'm not KJVO.... I know someone who suffers from KJV derangement syndrome, and you need to take that to the appropriate thread. This thread is not about your personal obsession with denigrating the King James Bible. Take it where it belongs. Start a Roby hates the KJV thread in the appropriate...

Punishment is eternal. Death is eternal by it's very nature. ECT teaches us to read "punishment" as "punishing". And assume that it must be an endless process. Notice you have been trained to read this as everlasting "punishment", instead of "everlasting fire". The text says that the fire is...

Jesus never heard of this pagan word you use called "hell". Whether or not it is eternal does not mean that those cast into it will live forever in it. What matters is what the Bible actually teaches. Jesus says nothing about people living forever without being born again as you teach. The...

No, "Hell" is not the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. It is conflating the Lake of Fire with the English word "hell" (which no translation should use) which is precisely Yeshua's problem. You simply want to beat up on the KJV. Do that on the translations board please and...

Yes.... So what?

The KJV isn't the only translation which translates that way. And I know it's a bad translation. No English Bible should ever use that word. But your KJV Derangement Syndrome belongs on the translations board. I used that translation because that is the word that Yeshua is using. He isn't...

"hell" is always a bad translation of hades.... I already said that in my post 76 You don't need to bother spewing your KJV derangement syndrome on this thread. That trash belongs on the translations board where no one cares to read it all again.

You are continuously an apologist for same-sex attractions. Same-sex attractions are Biblically perverse by nature. All true believers are called to seek redemption from perverse attractions. You are trying to justify them. Sin is not to be justified, but rather called out and defeated. No one...

No, they paint a picture of corpses..... Not whatever you said. "Hell" is not a Biblical term...but "hades" is... and it is cast into a lake of fire I've shown this repeatedly from Scripture and you insist on conflating those two concepts.....Because you do not, nor ever have cared much for...

You took my entire post and simply said "bovine excrement".... And then said: "You are wrong". You have no response to what I just said. I answered all your arguments, I undercut the argument that people were "born a certain way"....by admitting my own born predispositions... So, you have...