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Well that’s not true. I happen to derive great joy from the arguments made by for and against one another. Because evidently none of us are very spiritual people anyways.

I guess he only died for Israel. That’s who the his people are in that context.

I’ll try and look it up.

If Old Testament saints had a conceptual understanding of spiritual regeneration it was not taught after Melchizedek. Therefore from Adam to Noah to Shem scripture does not emphasize spiritual regeneration as we know it from the New Testament. However, I do believe that Jews did consider...

I learned this from Dr Fruchtenbaum who along with Alfred Edersheim have written extensively on the sudject.

Propitiation is in the context of man’s debt, a gift with believing as the prerequisite of obtaining the gift thus the propitiation was made for all of humanity but only applied on those who accept it.

Yet Judas did not want it. Yes the Calvinist argues logically but we cannot stand by what is logical rather we must stand in what scripture says.

Well by Adam all were made sin but by Yeshua all have been redeemed. The lost cannot be condemned for rejecting a propitiation that was not applicable for them can they.

First century Pharisaic Judaism taught new birth was achieved in the following ways (1) at bar mitzvah, (2) at marriage, (3) becoming a Pharisee, (4) becoming a teacher of the Pharisees, (5) gentile conversion to Judaism, and (6) a descendant of David ascending to the throne of Israel in...

I’ll have to read the Calvinist responses on this thread to answer. It just appears to be an attempt to get around the obvious that God predestined by choice whom he wanted to be saved.

That’s a human deduction that crosses the line.

That’s a human deduction that crosses the line.

Ariel.org

He did come in among the bottom 5 of 80 in his class.

America will fail and fall into the hands of the Antichrist with or without Trump. The democrats are just wanting a fast track into that future. :plain:

Sounds like Dort was afraid of the natives and came up with this weak idea of limited atonement for fear of head shrinking.

He died for all.

That doesn’t make any sense.

Jesus will not return until the Jews ask him to.