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  1. steaver

    False Gospel

    I believe you did the same when we discussed salvation. You even gave Paul as the example, having heard the gospel, rejected the gospel and hunted down Christians to have them imprisoned and killed. You said it was all up to God not man.
  2. steaver

    False Gospel

    Are you changing sides now? Remember it is you who has argued that all one needs to do is love God (whatever that means to them) and love others. You have argued one can even hear the gospel of Jesus Christ, reject Jesus is the Son of God (true doctrine), and still be saved. Remember you gave...
  3. steaver

    Remaining Roman Catholic

    I have never made personal insults to anyone. They do get offended and feel insulted when their doctrines are said to be false. As you can see, the Catholic biblical stance that they have the say on biblical doctrine as being based on Luke 10 is so far out of context it is ridiculous. Yet they...
  4. steaver

    Remaining Roman Catholic

    Yes, biblical stance Catholics use to support their doctrine that Jesus gave them the authority to interpret scripture. This is false. You can see Luke 10 has nothing to do with disciples deciding doctrines. Correct? You see this right?
  5. steaver

    Remaining Roman Catholic

    That would be false. There is no commission given to establish doctrine found anywhere in Luke 10. The commission was given to a specific seventy appointed by the Lord (vs 1). The command was specific, Luk 10:5 And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house. Luk 10:6 And...
  6. steaver

    Remaining Roman Catholic

    "By the Magisterium we mean the teaching office of the Church. It consists of the Pope and Bishops. Christ promised to protect the teaching of the Church : "He who hears you, hears me; he who rejects you rejects me, he who rejects me, rejects Him who sent me" (Luke 10. 16)." If this is true...
  7. steaver

    Christ Bruised, Us Healed

    Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. Isa 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity...
  8. steaver

    Would you stay? 5

    Utilyan said: "What you have is a common error." "When you get a bruise its part of the healing process." Note how far someone is willing to go to rob God of His glory! Let's look at the word "bruise". dâkâʼ, daw-kaw'; a primitive root (compare H1794); to crumble; transitively, to...
  9. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    Why did God raise up Jesus? For us to put Him to death?
  10. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    So in your mind we sinners were in control and had the power to wound Christ for our transgression and iniquities. We made Christ our sacrifice. We made Christ step down from heaven. So I guess in your mind Christ was not slain from the foundation of the world, we sinners made Him come down here...
  11. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    Yes, your Catholic view. You are here on a board that has a Baptist view, where none of the things you listed saves a person except for faith in Jesus Christ. Thus, you believe all the Baptist on this board cannot be saved by default. You can't say the scripture says you must do all that you...
  12. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    This is strange. Your Catholic view is if a person does not get baptized that person will not be saved. Utilyan's Catholic view is just love God (whatever that means to you) and love others and you will be saved, don't even need to believe on Jesus Christ. (remember he gave the Paul getting...
  13. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    Yes, according to your answer of God saving Paul a few pages back.
  14. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    Nice speech! But you forgot to answer the question. Who wounded Christ for our transgressions? God or Satan? I will add If Neither than who?
  15. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    Thank you for your clarity on the Catholic position, at least on your version of the Catholic position, as we see here on this board there are many. Pretty much a direct contradiction to "by grace ye have been saved and this not of yourselves". According to your pov it is most certainly "of...
  16. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    Who wounded Christ for our transgressions? God or Satan?
  17. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    Isa 53:5 - But he was wounded for our transgressions, Who wounded Christ for our transgressions? God or Satan? Should we thank God for the death of Jesus Christ or thank Satan? Rom 6:23 - For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Who...
  18. steaver

    Would you stay? 4

    You call God's plan a Pagan idea. Is this the Catholic position? How about it fellow Catholics? Do you speak as one voice? Your silence is deafening. Isa 53:5 - But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his...
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