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how is being saved hurt the old body?

thanks All, but if New Wine suggests New Life in Christ, what are the new vessels? We do not get new bodies when saved

Does anyone have insight on these and the similar verses in Mark and Luke? I do not follow and the commentaries I read vary. What is the parable about? Mat 9:16 No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the...

No, Mormons teach everybody is good and earth is necessary to enhance Heaven. I know we are nothing but sinners and the universe is a prison, according to Jesus . The teach Jesus is an angel like Islam I asked you once before I was banned " Why would God created a race to then sin and...

why? do you have scripture? I have looked

yes, but not like Mormons, like nobody ... so far. We are the bad guys of this narrative The old Jewsish Rabbis believe souls were all created at creation because God rested or ceased creating on the 6 day. Bodies are formed from the earth.

Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; looks like we were children before partaking of flesh and blood

The spiritual part of Jesus is God, The "pnuema "is spiritual, the "psyche" is the mental "soma" is the body. God is spirit , Jesus is Flesh and blood and the spirit of God Heb 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of...

totally agree, The only human son of God , while eternal God , Emmanuel, God with us the expressed image of God

look at the definition of "begotten" It does not mean as you say. I agree with what you say of the God head. You do not agree with what you write and begotten

That soul is living person, the Hebrew uses "souls" for "body and souls" nephesh, i think. The soul / spirit of a man is "ruwach"

The eternal part of Jesus that dealt with spiritual matters, the pnuema (soul) is GOD. He did not get a soul at birth, and neither did you

No, He humbled Himself to be a man. obedient to His purpose Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Phl 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Phl 2:8 And being found...

If He was begotten then He was created by GOD...

To Say He was begotten is to say He was creared. Now we see the problem, you think a soul is Human but it is spiritual, not physical..Jesus was God in the flesh, His "spirit" is God

Why do you say there is no time.?. He was a not Human and then was a Human. That is the time. Heb 1:5.. "THIS DAY" GOD The Father did not produce GOD the SON or begat him. That means one existed alone then the other existed Completely wrong

God became the son when God became a father to him according to Heb 1: 5 eternal or sonship in Heaven prior to incarnation implies Jesus has a subordinate position to the Father as God, or a created being lessor God. This is taught by JW's Mormons, Islam etc... If Jesus is not Holy God equal to...

He was the Only Son of God as a Human. The only one. but not before being Human as Heb 1:5 says

I do not know why? Unless to promote eternal sonship, which is wrong. As mentioned in this discussion. Why do you suppose? It is not in the Bible