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How is second person determined?

i do not get your meaning Jesus is Greek , Your name, Yeshua is the name for a man who also was GOD. He was in Heaven WHILE on the earth. Jhn 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. He was separate from the God...

why do you say "second person"?

He was not the Son until He became the Son of Man or human. neither was God the Father,

yes, and Jesus was in Heaven also while on earth

correct, Are you sure there is not another we have not been introduced?

We solidly know God is three in one, unity yet separate. but that is all we know

yes, man made conclusion, of the info available, that each are God, but not anything more. There is more than what we know, We cannot assume we know all about God

wrong, the Trinity is a man made doctrinal that shows God in the three personalities that we know. There is no verse to confirm there is only a three- in-one but that the Son, Father And Holy Spirit each are God. No verse says that is all there is. We cannot assume that we know all about God

The Trinity is only shown to us humans , as a Son, Father and the Holy Spirit. We do not have complete knowledge of God. There might not be a Trinity at all or even a multi personalty unity in Heaven, we do not know.

There was not a Father- Son relationship until Jesus became son of man , as us all, and thus Son of God

eternal sonship is plainly wrong

I think incarnate son ship is without question, in question was Jesus a son in heaven before incarnation. He was not. He did not have a lessor or subservient position, He was and is GOD. He was in Heaven while on the earth as a man

Jesus is God in eternity, not a lessor position to the GodHead, not a Son and Father. unity yet separable

He only became a Son when He became son of man. In eternity, He was not a Son but God, .. Same as with the Father,

It is not debatable , Jesus was not a Son in Heaven .He was God. Was Jesus in a lessor or created position?

but keep in mind, God wasn't a Father to Jesus until Jesus became a human Son. Heb 1:5 ¶ For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? And Jesus was in Heaven while on the earth

Dave , God is One, yet separable , Jesus was God in unity yet distinct from the Godhead as shown on the cross

they who?