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Do Christians Disrespect God the Father in our Churches?

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loDebar

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Yeshua1 said:
Jesus is NOT the name of the father, nor the Holy spirit though!
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i do not get your meaning

Jesus is Greek , Your name, Yeshua is the name for a man who also was GOD. He was in Heaven WHILE on the earth.

Jhn 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

He was separate from the God Head while on the cross because of Sin.
 
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Yeshua1

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loDebar said:
i do not get your meaning

Jesus is Greek , Your name, Yeshua is the name for a man who also was GOD. He was in Heaven WHILE on the earth.

Jhn 3:13
And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

He was separate from the God Head while on the cross because of Sin.
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I was just saying that Jesus was the name assigned to God the Son, but the father and Spirit are not called by that Name...
 
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loDebar

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The question considered is what evidence of a Father /Son relationship before Jesus was human?
I support there is none. He was not a Son to the Father before being Human and neither was the Father , Heb 1.
 
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loDebar said:
The question considered is what evidence of a Father /Son relationship before Jesus was human?
I support there is none. He was not a Son to the Father before being Human and neither was the Father , Heb 1.
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It has been explained to you. Go back and read post #33.

Now, change of subject: I am now putting on my Administrator Hat.

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The Baptist Board is Trinitarian in Theology. If anyone here is not a committed Trinitarian now is the time to leave.
 
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Robert William

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Yeshua1 said:
Christians pay honor and respect ot our Lord jesus, and many to the holy Spirit, but do we really pay homage to God the Father? He was the One both Jesus and Paul acknowledge as the God of Jesus Christ and of us, but how many times is He preached/talked about in Church/daily life as compared to that for Jesus and the Holy Spirit?
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As sinners we ALL disrespect by not being in His will 100%.
 
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loDebar

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TCassidy said:
It has been explained to you. Go back and read post #33.

Now, change of subject: I am now putting on my Administrator Hat.

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The Baptist Board is Trinitarian in Theology. If anyone here is not a committed Trinitarian now is the time to leave.
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it was explained in #34

We are rightly Trinitarian in what we understand.

WE cannot assume we know all there is about a complex God
.God has shown Himself to us as three,,, That is all we know. We do not need to presume more about Heaven or God than we have been told.
Jesus was only a Son, once he was became a human . Otherwise, He was GOD, Triune , as far as we have been told. We cannot assume to know more. We have to rely on scripture which you know is limited in this area. We designate God who became man as Son, He called Himself Son of Man. not Son of God( except maybe in Rev. one time from John's vision).
Incarnate Sonship is correct as this verse says
Heb 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Before was Jesus a Son to the Father? not according to this verse
 
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Yeshua1

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loDebar said:
it was explained in #34

We are rightly Trinitarian in what we understand.

WE cannot assume we know all there is about a complex God
.God has shown Himself to us as three,,, That is all we know. We do not need to presume more about Heaven or God than we have been told.
Jesus was only a Son, once he was became a human . Otherwise, He was GOD, Triune , as far as we have been told. We cannot assume to know more. We have to rely on scripture which you know is limited in this area. We designate God who became man as Son, He called Himself Son of Man. not Son of God( except maybe in Rev. one time from John's vision).
Incarnate Sonship is correct as this verse says
Heb 1:5
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

Before was Jesus a Son to the Father? not according to this verse
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God the father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, 3 Persons equally God, and yet God is One Being in 3 Separate Persons.
 
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