Do Christians Disrespect God the Father in our Churches?

How can there be a Father without a Son, or a Son without a Father?

 

There was not a Father- Son relationship until Jesus became son of man , as us all, and thus Son of God

 

I can see it both ways. I use "eternal sonship" when refuting JWs on Proverbs 8. And use "incarnate sonship" in the Doctrine of Divine Simplicity disputes that seem to contradict eternal sonship. But I think it might be part of the mystery of the Trinity we are dealing with.

 

The Trinity is only shown to us humans , as a Son, Father and the Holy Spirit. We do not have complete knowledge of God.

There might not be a Trinity at all or even a multi personalty unity in Heaven, we do not know.

 

This would be heresy to deny the Trinity.

 

wrong, the Trinity is a man made doctrinal that shows God in the three personalities that we know. There is no verse to confirm there is only a three- in-one but that the Son, Father And Holy Spirit each are God. No verse says that is all there is. We cannot assume that we know all about God

 

The doctrine comes from drawing a conclusion about what scripture teaches. And it is not arbitrary. It took years of debate by the most learned to refine it to the point where it is today. If you do not believe the truth contained therein, you worship and serve a false Christ. And are beyond the place where salvation happens. You need to treat this more carefully.

 

yes, man made conclusion, of the info available, that each are God, but not anything more. There is more than what we know, We cannot assume we know all about God

 

We solidly know God is three in one, unity yet separate. but that is all we know

 

If you conclude anything about scripture, you have a doctrine. If you prefer the incarnate sonship position, you have a doctrine. The beauty of the Trinity doctrine is that it is refined through years, and even centuries of debate if you accept the later creeds. But if you reject it, you worship and serve a different god from the God of the bible.

 

You will find a richer definition in the historic ecumenical creeds. My favorite is the Second Helvetic Confession.

 

correct, Are you sure there is not another we have not been introduced?

 

yes, and Jesus was in Heaven also while on earth

 

He was not the Son until He became the Son of Man or human. neither was God the Father,

 

why do you say "second person"?