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Do Christians Disrespect God the Father in our Churches?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Yeshua1, May 31, 2018.

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  1. loDebar

    loDebar Well-Known Member

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    i do not get your meaning

    Jesus is Greek , Your name, Yeshua is the name for a man who also was GOD. He was in Heaven WHILE on the earth.

    Jhn 3:13
    And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

    He was separate from the God Head while on the cross because of Sin.
     
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    Second member/Person of the Godhead.
     
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    I was just saying that Jesus was the name assigned to God the Son, but the father and Spirit are not called by that Name...
     
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    How is second person determined?
     
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    total agreement
     
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    God the Father, Jesus, Holy Spirit....
     
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    they are co equal , so how was the order assigned?

    Was God the Father ,a father before Jesus was the son of man?
     
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    The question considered is what evidence of a Father /Son relationship before Jesus was human?
    I support there is none. He was not a Son to the Father before being Human and neither was the Father , Heb 1.
     
    #69 loDebar, Jun 6, 2018
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    It has been explained to you. Go back and read post #33.

    Now, change of subject: I am now putting on my Administrator Hat.

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    The Baptist Board is Trinitarian in Theology. If anyone here is not a committed Trinitarian now is the time to leave.
     
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    Seconding this position.
     
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    As sinners we ALL disrespect by not being in His will 100%.
     
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    it was explained in #34

    We are rightly Trinitarian in what we understand.

    WE cannot assume we know all there is about a complex God
    .God has shown Himself to us as three,,, That is all we know. We do not need to presume more about Heaven or God than we have been told.
    Jesus was only a Son, once he was became a human . Otherwise, He was GOD, Triune , as far as we have been told. We cannot assume to know more. We have to rely on scripture which you know is limited in this area. We designate God who became man as Son, He called Himself Son of Man. not Son of God( except maybe in Rev. one time from John's vision).
    Incarnate Sonship is correct as this verse says
    Heb 1:5
    For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

    Before was Jesus a Son to the Father? not according to this verse
     
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    God the father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, 3 Persons equally God, and yet God is One Being in 3 Separate Persons.
     
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    Yes, but God the Son, was not a son until He became Son of Man. HEB 1 5
     
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    What was He before that in the trinity then?
     
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    All I know is......
    GOD. Separable yet unity
    That is All we are told
     
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    The Father is called God, Jesus called Son and God, and the Holy Spirit is called God!
     
    #78 Yeshua1, Jun 7, 2018
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    yes, but remember why He is called Son....He became man.. He was not called Son before
     
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    How do you know the Word was not also the Son before the incarnation?
     
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