Do Christians Disrespect God the Father in our Churches?

Dave , God is One, yet separable , Jesus was God in unity yet distinct from the Godhead as shown on the cross

 

I think the simplest way to put it is:

“Now I want to remind you, although you once fully knew it, that Jesus, who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” (Jude 5) (ESV)

Of course Jesus = YHWH in this passage. But we also know Jesus is God, having two distinct natures, one fully human (that died on the cross) and one purely divine (that did not die on the cross). Chalcedonian Creed

 

God is one spiritual essence with three persons positionally called Father, Son (Word), and Holy Spirit who revealed his personal name to Israel as YHWH and to New Covenant Israel as Jesus Christ.

 

Yes.

 

Jesus the Christ used the personage and the example of the Father to enlighten us sinful mortals and in order to move them into a place of understanding He needs a Father that he could point to who was dependable, loving, just and merciful. It’s kind of like Archimedes ... “Give me a lever and a place to stand and I can move rhe world.” LOL, I always loved that guy... but I’m digressing. The point is it is the Father that Jesus used as his pivotal point. The ground of which he stood was his experience of God and His lever/leverage was the gospel.

I hope to God that that analogy helps to piece thing things together for youse guys ... oh no, my PA/ Jersey dialect is piercing through

 

but keep in mind, God wasn't a Father to Jesus until Jesus became a human Son.
Heb 1:5
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For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?

And Jesus was in Heaven while on the earth

 

This is debatable. If you hold to the "incarnate sonship" view of the trinity, yes. If you hold to the "eternal sonship" version of the trinity, the Father was always the Father, and the Son was always the Son.

 

It is not debatable , Jesus was not a Son in Heaven .He was God.

Was Jesus in a lessor or created position?

 

So you prefer the "incarnate sonship view" of the Trinity. Most of Christendom prefers the "eternal sonship" view. In either case, Jesus is eternally God.

 

He only became a Son when He became son of man. In eternity, He was not a Son but God, .. Same as with the Father,

 

Jesus is God in eternity, not a lessor position to the GodHead, not a Son and Father. unity yet separable

 

I understand your position. But is a wife inferior to a husband? I think if we read scripture as an "eternal sonship" trinitarian. And read it again as an "incarnate sonship" trinitarian we might find a solution over time.

 

I think incarnate son ship is without question, in question was Jesus a son in heaven before incarnation. He was not. He did not have a lessor or subservient position, He was and is GOD. He was in Heaven while on the earth as a man

 

As I said earlier, reading scripture both ways helps to form a position. I clearly see the "incarnate Sonship" position. But in some scriptures the "eternal sonship" position fits better. Perhaps a study from both sides would help see the strengths and weaknesses of both positions.

 

We give honor to the Father by worshipping Jesus. God the Father wants us to worship and honor Jesus, it gives Him pleasure. The Father sent His son and the Spirit points us to His Son.

 

eternal sonship is plainly wrong