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. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. yes, so therefor one cannot proceed from the other .... ?

If one proceeds from another, then one has to exist before another...then one od the two has not always exist

no, How could He proceed from the Father yet never was a time He did not exist.? If He proceeded from the Father , He did not exist before He proceeded. contradictory statements

I do not think He was begotten except for when being human. He was NOT procreated or caused to be He was and is GOD, separable yet one

Jhn 1:1 ¶ In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jhn 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

God's only Son yes, begotten ,yes, eternal yes, but only begotten as a Human ,. He was not "begotten" as a GOD I wanted to add , other claimed to be God's Son. Jesus was the Only One that verified His claims

All we know is the scripture, as the" Word " in John 1 and there is little separation shown in the OT. Angel of the Lord is attributed to Jesus, again in a earthy form. There is little to suggest separation of the God Head to shown "Jesus" singularly except worldwide in the NT in...

Remember it was unheard of a god becoming man. Many men claimed to be god and from the Greek, there were sons of gods. Jesus did not use that term of Himself. He referred Himself "son of Man" and equal with God, unfathomable to the Hebrew and Greeks

What does that mean? I cannot find that in scripture, He was not a Son until He Son of Man

I cannot find these terms for Jesus prior to being Human

Yes .as shown in John 1, He is God But recognize the Father name for God occurs at the same time as the Son , Heb 1:5

Jesus was not God's son until He became son of man. according the the verses in Hebrews

The Son did not became flesh and blood, God became fresh and blood as the Son. Yet was in Heaven while on earth. Obedient as a human to GOD

Because we have Heb 1 :5 ...." this day..." another matter. preincarnate sonship suggest a lessor or even created son position, for Jesus which is wrong and is taught by Mormans, JW's even Muslims

yes, but remember why He is called Son....He became man.. He was not called Son before

All I know is...... GOD. Separable yet unity That is All we are told

Yes, but God the Son, was not a son until He became Son of Man. HEB 1 5

it was explained in #34 We are rightly Trinitarian in what we understand. WE cannot assume we know all there is about a complex God .God has shown Himself to us as three,,, That is all we know. We do not need to presume more about Heaven or God than we have been told. Jesus was only a...

The question considered is what evidence of a Father /Son relationship before Jesus was human? I support there is none. He was not a Son to the Father before being Human and neither was the Father , Heb 1.

they are co equal , so how was the order assigned? Was God the Father ,a father before Jesus was the son of man?