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  1. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    If you are a Catholic, you would be Catholic. Well, now we are getting somewhere. Could you expound on 6:53, how the person who wants to be saved would go about obeying this? The bible is all I have, along with the Holy Spirit indwellement. Is this enough to understand Jn 6:53?
  2. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Just going by what you said about what I must do to be saved, you are the one that said you must give up everything and be homeless. Apparently you are not practicing what you say you believe.
  3. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    So I must return to orthodox Christianity to be saved? Is this the consensus of all the Catholics here? Or do you all have a different way to be saved?
  4. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    If it is so simple, you could tell me what Jesus says to do to be saved? You keep saying do what Jesus says. Ok, tell me what Jesus says to do to be saved? You are Catholic, you claim to have more than the bible to answer these question concerning doctrine. You won't even give me Scripture, let...
  5. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Not asking about the nature of salvation. Asking what I must do to be saved. Catholics tell me I cannot rely upon Scripture Alone. So i ask you, a Catholic, to explain what the RCC's answer is to the question.
  6. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Well you know it does not cut it because if it did you wouldn't care whether or not Christians submitted to the RCC or not. You are here promoting the RCC as correct and right. So go ahead and tell us the Catholic stand on salvation. Adonia said the sacraments are included for eternal life. Do...
  7. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    I did not misrepresent Adonia, I gave you what he said and the context in which he said it. Not really, So let's here it. What must I do to be saved? "Do what Jesus says"? Ok, tell me what Jesus says i must do to be saved? On Eternal life? You have liberty to believe differently on this...
  8. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Yes, I am looking for the Catholic list on what i must do to be saved. Just saying "do what He says" doesn't cut it. Surely Catholics have a structured answer for this. I would hope you would think it is of the utmost importance.
  9. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    I fully agree. It was Adonia who included it as part of eternal life. And you said you agree with Adonia. Surely you can see how you guys are all over the place, yet you brag how the RCC keeps you all in one voice, one opinion on doctrine.
  10. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    The subject with Adonia was eternal life. So what homeless shelter are you staying at? Or don't you agree with Jesus on that one?
  11. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    You are being vague with "His teachings" since you know there are disagreements among Christians with the application of those teachings . But you have a HUGE advantage, at least Catholics brag they do, since they have the uniform teaching of the RCC handed down from the beginning. So it should...
  12. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Jesus gave many instructions, which I follow. The question is.....what did Jesus say to do to be saved? Waiting for your list.
  13. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Yes, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shall be saved. Just one on my list. Now you Catholics declare we all need the RCC for unity in doctrine, so we can all speak as one voice on these weighty matters such as salvation. But what I witness is that none of you know what one must do to...
  14. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    That is pretty broad. Can you give a list of what I must do to be saved? I'm sure the RCC has it all neat and tidy so you all can give the right and same answer. Adonia said you must sell everything and live homeless, is this on your list?
  15. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Are there any Catholics here on this board who can answer a poor soul...What must I do to be saved?"
  16. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    You are here defending the RCC as having all the correct and right answers to these matters of salvation. And yet you yourself have no idea what I must do to be saved.
  17. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    It's interesting how all of the Catholics on this board have a different belief concerning salvation. Utilyan has argued with me to no end that a person doesn't even need to believe in Jesus Christ to be saved, that one can reject Jesus Christ as the Son of God and still be saved through doing...
  18. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    So the wine verses grape juice matters why? Does it have anything to do with one being saved or not? If not, then what is the consequences?
  19. steaver

    Would you stay? 3

    Wow! That is quite a list to be saved. How do you believe you are doing with all of these, and of course all the others you did not list? Are you living in a homeless shelter right now?
  20. steaver

    Remaining Roman Catholic

    As far as the Priest's comments in the video, calling for the people to stand up against the Leadership, how has that worked out for the people in the past? Even when Priest from within stood up against them, what was their demise? The RCC cannot and will not be "fixed". For it to be fixed would...
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