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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    Thanks, Jerome! Any ideas on how the later change came about in the Wycliffe?
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    NIV strong points and weaknesses?

    Why not just decide for yourself?
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    When is the definite article important?

    So, you're saying the KJV translation uses the worst option of those three possibilities?
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    When is the definite article important?

    Does not including the article in the English affect the meaning?
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    When is the definite article important?

    Agreed, but Young's is expected to be literal. Young is probably going to exhibit each and every article regardless (which is why I showed it).
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    When is the definite article important?

    I begin this topic with this verse, but this is not the only example I could have chosen (Colossians 2:12) -- συνταφέντες αὐτῷ ἐν τῷ βαπτίσματι, ἐν ᾧ καὶ συνηγέρθητε διὰ τῆς πίστεως τῆς ἐνεργείας τοῦ θεοῦ τοῦ ἐγείραντος αὐτὸν ἐκ τῶν νεκρῶν Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen...
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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    But Taverner's also? I wonder if there is only a minute orthographic difference in Hebrew denoting 247 from 245. (Can anyone confirm?) Furthermore, I can speculate that this small difference caused an editorial lapse in the early printed Hebrew critical text used by these translators; or perhaps...
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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    How can these be reconciled? Is this a genuine error in the English Bible?
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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    So, we have two conflicting accounts (one in Ezra, one in Nehemiah) in the English Bible?
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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    It looks suspiciously like the "forty and five" in Nehemiah 7:67 was scribally appended from the mule count at the end of verse 68. Interestingly, a note in the NET Bible states that Nehemiah 7:68 (bracketed in the JPS Tanakh) is not found in "most" of Hebrew manuscripts. Why do we have a verse...
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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    The Bible is filled with repetition and redundancy, including lengthy parallel passages. We have such a parallel passage for Nehemiah Chapter Seven; it is found in Ezra Chapter Two. In fact, the Hebrew is virtually identical (some minor spelling variations) for 13 continuous verses except for at...
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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    Taverner's Bible (1539) text also has the number as 247; Douay (1609 Catholic OT) has the number to be 245, as does the Authorized Version (1611). Clearly, differences among Bible texts is not just a modern phenomena. It seems that the number of singers at Nehemiah 7:67 stands as 245 in the...
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    Differences in EETs: 245, 247, or 645? Nehemiah 7:67

    These versions seem to agree on the number (7,337) of male & female servants in the first part of the verse but disagree on the number of singers. Nehemiah 7:67 from some early English translations -- outakun the seruauntis and handmaidis of hem, that weren seuene thousynde thre hundrid and...
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    How Would We define terms Preservation/revelation/inerrancy/Inspiration?

    The BB has a search function. Your topic here has been covered several times on the BB in the past. You might like this one -- http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=47319
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    IsThe WEB Bible available in printed form?

    Not really. I've never read it through. The World English Bible (WEB) is an grammatical updating of the ASV, with the NT being somewhat conformed to the Majority Text (which sounds pretty good to me). Like the NET, it may be revised continuously. It comes in a 'Hebraic Names' (HNV) version also...
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    MUST we have only one text?

    Thanks for your posts, jbh28. It is interesting to note here that there are more Latin manuscripts (about 10,000) than Greek. The Latin MSS are overwhelmingly classified as the 'Western' texttype. Therefore, if all manuscripts were taken into consideration then a different 'majority' text would...
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    IsThe WEB Bible available in printed form?

    Yes, I've seen a print copy for sale on eBay before.
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    MUST we have only one text?

    He is correct that they cannot be different and yet also the same. But there are more than two possibilities (underlined above). Winman has been more careful in the past when stating the possibilities, but he left at least two out. A third possibility is that they each have added AND left out...
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    Lutheran Synod Spurns NIV2011

    Alone? I didn't say that. The question I was answering had three parts, and I was primarily addressing the first two: translations that may not be as easy reading AND that may not include the latest in scholarship.
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