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    was the Septuagint the "bible" of The Apostles?

    For those interested, the Baba Bathra (also Bava Batra) is a Babylonian rabbinic tradition (Talmud) probably written in the mid-2nd Century AD (more than 100 years after Jesus' resurrection). It is perhaps difficult to understand the significance of the partial quote above; it is actually an...
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    was the Septuagint the "bible" of The Apostles?

    You have the correct basic idea: Jeremiah may have been considered the identifying book of the Nebi'im collection. You just take the idea a bit too literally (because Jeremiah would actually be in a separate scroll from Zechariah) and advance it too far against all historical evidence (there...
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    was the Septuagint the "bible" of The Apostles?

    Zechariah was never "in the same scroll of Jeremiah". Jeremiah is 52 chapters long, probably already a very long hard-to-handle scroll. Zechariah could be written in the same scroll along with the other 11 'minor' (shorter books) prophets. Indeed, Zechariah was included in The Prophets of the...
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    was the Septuagint the "bible" of The Apostles?

    Yes, Zechariah seems to be the final martyr recorded in the Tanakh even when Chronicles is placed before Psalms in the Kethuvi'im. Therefore, your claim that Jesus read the Bible in the same order as the order of Ben Chayyim is not proven by Matthew 23:35. Not that this matters very much...
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    was the Septuagint the "bible" of The Apostles?

    You don't think so? Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and [some] of them ye shall kill and crucify; and [some] of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute [them] from city to city: That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the...
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    was the Septuagint the "bible" of The Apostles?

    I appreciate your attempt to support your assertions with sources; unfortunately, much of your effort missed my question and thus became completely uneccessary. I made no argument for the LXX. I agreed with you from the start about the order of the books in the LXX. I made no argument against...
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    was the Septuagint the "bible" of The Apostles?

    As far as I can tell, all Masoretic Texts of the Jewish Scriptures have the T-N-K structure regardless whether they belong to the Ben Asher, Ben Chayyim, or Ben Naphtali tradition. For examples, Codex Cairensis (AD 895) was penned by Moses ben Asher in Tiberias (father of Aaron ben Asher) and it...
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    "The Voice" Bible

    I rec'd a free copy of when it first came out a couple years ago and read a little bit of it. There is at least one other NT presented in 'playscript' format (NKJV is the translation used in the one I saw). Here is a link to a previous discussion about The Voice on the BB --...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    I really noticed these similar verses in Matthew 6 with the exact same phrase in them this morning before church -- 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. 6:6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    Exact phrase found in Jeremiah 30:14-15 -- All thy lovers have forgotten thee; they seek thee not; for I have wounded thee with the wound of an enemy, with the chastisement of a cruel one, for the multitude of thine iniquity; [because] thy sins were increased. Why criest thou for thine...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    The Book of Revelation has a lot of repeated phrases; here are few examples -- 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, ... 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: 1:17 ... I am the first and the last: 2:8 ... saith the first and the last, which was dead, and...
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    As the above example suggests, it is often difficult to identify repetition and redundancy in Scripture (in the original languages) due to variations introduced by translators. Should translators preserve repetition found in their source documents?
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    Translation Debates – A Jewish View

    Nope. I don't see that on the linked page anywhere.
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    Repetition & Redundancy in the Scriptures

    Underpinning many KJVO arguments lies the idea that ancient Hebrew words (or Greek) could only be accurately translated in one way into English (and of course, the KJV text represents that singularly precise wording). However, the KJV translators themselves would render the same original...
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    Translation Debates – A Jewish View

    Did you read the article? (Hint: there is no mention of the "NT" in the one I read).
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    AV 1611 KJV Holy Bible

    makahiya has been posting exactly (word-for-word) the same assertions across many websites in the past few months. The sincerity of his presence here should be closely scrutinized.
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    KJV: Why is it the one and others wrong?

    What do you mean by "correct"?
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    The Lord's body

    Since the NIV (both editions) follow a 'critical text' reading rather than the fuller 'majority' or 'TR' text (σῶμα τοῦ κυρίου) the English words "of the Lord" or "of Christ" are each clarifying additions made by the translators without the actual underlying support of their Greek source...
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    Translation Debates – A Jewish View

    I read the article. Interestingly, the writer fails to mention two obvious facts that affect the Jewish opinion of most major English translations-- First, that they don't come without the New Testament! You can usually buy the NT separately in major English translations, but rarely can you...
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    The Word of God

    If I'm not mistaken, not one instance of the phrase "word of God" is actually a clear reference to written revelation (ie 'the Bible'). The term used by the NT writers for the available written revelation (the Hebrew texts) was "scriptures". I believe, the term "word of God" in the Bible always...
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