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  1. Greektim

    Water and Spirit

    And you failed to engage w/ the passages he used... that kind of one-sidedness is not helpful and deplorable for a moderator. That was my point. There was plenty there to talk of water and the Spirit together. And John 1 defines Jesus as the Word of God. So unless you believe Scripture...
  2. Greektim

    Water and Spirit

    So the Scripture that you quote trumps the Scripture he quotes??? Your opinion is also Peter's but JonC's is Paul's and he is wrong??????? And you are a moderator????
  3. Greektim

    John 3:16 ...whosoever...

    I asked you once, but you didn't answer. I'll try again. While what you posted may be within the semantic range of the words in question, there are more options. So how do you decide of all the options??? I know the answer... you assert your theology. And I don't fault you. That is...
  4. Greektim

    Water and Spirit

    Aren't we all
  5. Greektim

    Water and Spirit

    Redemptive-historically, Jesus embodied Israel, redefined Israel around himself (thus chose 12 disciples), and fulfilled Israel's mission to bless the nations as Israel's idealic Israelite, as Israel's king who would bless the nations (Ps 72). Since we are joined to Christ, and entrance into the...
  6. Greektim

    Metaphor or OT Allusion

    Replied... though w/ hesitation b/c I don't have an adequate answer for this.
  7. Greektim

    Water and Spirit

    Certainly, from a redemptive historical standpoint, the ministry of the Spirit climaxes at the inauguration of the new covenant. As JonC has pointed out, the prophets such as Jeremiah and Ezekiel and Joel make this emphasis. So while systematic theology might seek to give an ordo salutis for the...
  8. Greektim

    Metaphor or OT Allusion

    I don't deny that I am a maximalist when it comes to viewing the NT through the lense of the OT. I tend toward biblical theology, canonical theology, and intertextuality. The OT makes use of itself quite profusely, so it is no wonder that the NT does as well w/ the apostles taking their cues...
  9. Greektim

    John 3:16 ...whosoever...

    That's not exactly the same view, though. I tend toward biblical theology rather than systematic (let the reader understand the difference). Thus my interpretation skews toward a historical redemptive view. And I think the trajectory of Scripture has the idea of God blessing the nations through...
  10. Greektim

    John 3:16 ...whosoever...

    What if I were a Calvie that didn't hold to the interpretation you just enumerated but rather kept the word kosmos in its canonical and biblical theological function of God blessing the nations through Israel which is embodied by the Son (a concept used of Israel), Jesus. Thus kosmos means that...
  11. Greektim

    John 3:16 ...whosoever...

    Van, how do you determine the meaning of a word when it has such a wide semantic range? What reasoning do you use to arrive that kosmos in Jn 3:16 refers to fallen mankind? I won't deny that kosmos may have that connotation. But there are other denotative and connotative meanings that work just...
  12. Greektim

    Metaphor or OT Allusion

    I think pointer is putting it mildly. All fingers point that Jesus was alluding to Ezekiel 36.
  13. Greektim

    "the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me forever"

    Romans 11:25-26 can just as easily say that the fullness of the Gentiles IS all Israel will be saved. The grammatical reason is because of the word οὕτω which does not necessarily imply sequence like you want but is used for explaining something. Therefore, what does the fullness of the Gentiles...
  14. Greektim

    Metaphor or OT Allusion

    How do you decide when you interpret Scripture? For example, the John 3 thread about "water and the Spirit" has many options, but it really comes down to 2: is it a metaphor for something (w/ a bunch of options) or is it an allusion from the OT (namely Ezekiel 36:25ff.)? Considering just how...
  15. Greektim

    What would you consider a Degree Mill?

    There's a school known for its theological prowess.
  16. Greektim

    What would you consider a Degree Mill?

    Sure... We'll just take your word for it then. I love it that when you are called out as being false, you just say "whatever". Too bad you weren't like that before you started asserting yourself.
  17. Greektim

    What would you consider a Degree Mill?

    Show me 1 of your syllabi from either your bachelors or masters that had 5,000 pages of required reading to go with the other research you had to do. Just one, and I'll recant.
  18. Greektim

    What would you consider a Degree Mill?

    Yes... some redundant or useless classes there when Greek and Hebrew should be on the list. Get rid of evangelism, global studies, and survey of theology. The research, writing, and ministry prep class seems to be 2 separate entities. Lose that and you have 6 credits for Greek and 6 for...
  19. Greektim

    What would you consider a Degree Mill?

    Still callin' bull on it.
  20. Greektim

    What would you consider a Degree Mill?

    I'm sorry. I don't believe you. I don't believe you did that coarse load for every single class in your undergrad and grad. The fact is, I know it is not the same. The level of scholarship expected at the undergrad and grad level is not the same. I had to produce publishable papers. Publishable...
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