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  1. Greektim

    Two Words Out Of Place?

    Again demonstrating you do not understand the difference. That a preposition in and of itself is adverbial is grammatical. Its relationship to other words outside of the prepositional phrase is syntactical. But to say that Greek grammar doesn't bare on the issue isn't helpful at all b/c the...
  2. Greektim

    Summit University

    Since the bible college movement is all but defunked, I think bible colleges, in order to stay relevant and open, need to make these kind of changes. My only worry is whether they can keep their heads above water while doing so. There are so many Christian universities out there to compete with...
  3. Greektim

    Two Words Out Of Place?

    If you read my initial post, I admitted that syntax at best offers clues but does not give any definitive evidence. Syntax rarely does. My point, b/c I like to bust on Van and his pseudo-Greek scholarship, is that he used the term "grammar" when in reality this has more to do w/ "syntax". I...
  4. Greektim

    Convince me of Amillennialism

    Especially if every promise found its "yes" in Jesus. I'd add the questions, given the genre of Rev, what makes you think that (1) Rev. 20 should be seen as chronological to ch. 19 & (2) what makes you think it is literal and not symbolic of victory? Again... given the genre of Rev which is...
  5. Greektim

    Scriptures Only Necessary?

    Is the Holy Spirit included in outside teaching?
  6. Greektim

    Two Words Out Of Place?

    This is not Greek grammar... this is syntax. I wonder if you understand the difference.
  7. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    Only the subject carries out the action of the verb. Either Paul and Barnabas did the appointing, or they did the voting. Either way, it doesn't say the church voted. The only subjects are Paul and Barnabas. This isn't absurd; it's grammar! It is the same when the verb is used of God. God...
  8. Greektim

    Two Words Out Of Place?

    That was my last point about the logic of the passage. It seems to fit better w/ the intent and purpose to place "in love" w/ the following verb "having predestined". But that is more speculative b/c it fits with our theology. Certainly, love is related to our holiness and blamelessness, but it...
  9. Greektim

    Two Words Out Of Place?

    Probably the best (and only?) syntactical reason for beginning the phrase with "in love" rather than ending one is b/c many of Paul's clauses in this run-on sentence begin with a prepositional phrase "in him" or "in whom". Grammatically, a prepositional phrase is more adverbial than adjectival...
  10. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    Folks... just take a look at who the "they" is referring to... Paul and Barnabas. Then figure out how just 2 men could constitute the vote. The word here simply means "appoint" as in "they appointed" not "they voted [amongst themselves???]".
  11. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    Rude... maybe. But that is just the playful ribbing here. Arrogant? No.
  12. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    So some Scripture is more authoritative than others. Gotcha.
  13. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    I deleted the irrelevant stuff and just kept the salient points you made. My response to this is simple. This does not work grammatically. The verb "appointed" has a very specific subject: Paul and Barnabas. So the only hands that would be involved, if your definition were correct, would be...
  14. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    We could be wrong??? B/c this verse does not support what they want. Not grammatically anyways. See my response to Van.
  15. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    I actually identify mostly with the 1st London Baptist Confession of 1644. Even still, their citation of Acts 14:23 just means people aren't reading the context nor their GNTs. However, the 1st confession does indicate that elders and deacons are still appointed by the congregation but the...
  16. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    REally? No meat? The fact is, words change over the years... as in your argument is queer. Just like the one you want to mean "vote" so badly. But your problem isn't just a lexical fallacy. You made a grammatical error. This is the grammatical error. The subject of the verb performs the...
  17. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    For further demonstration that this word Van likes to abuse came to simply mean appoint, Josephus uses the word for God's appointing of Saul as king. No vote. Just God's appointment. This sources comes from LSJ which says (link here),
  18. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    Van and his word studies. Lexical fallacy anyone? The "they" in Acts 14:23 is Paul and Barnabas. They are the subjects of the verb "appoint". So even if Van were correct in his understanding of the Greek word (which he is not), it would still be a vote from 2 guys. So essentially not a vote at...
  19. Greektim

    Bible Study = "going to Church" aka Corporate Worship

    This is not just a passage from Acts that can be difficult to determine if it is prescriptive or descriptive. This is from a letter from Paul. You go in this direction, and where do you stop? Titus 1:5 is sufficient for me.
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