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My point is... why do we need a single word if the Greek word has a connotative meaning that neither simply "siblings" nor "brothers/brethren" can convey??? Brothers and sisters

Heb 8:13 In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

:BangHead: Except maybe "brothers and sisters"... :tonofbricks:

Great blog post about translations conversing with one another. Might be good if we all took a read just so we can laugh at all of this. http://theblazingcenter.com/2015/02/if-all-the-bible-translations-had-a-dinner-party.html (Why didn't the NASB or the NKJV get an invite to the dinner???)

You're new here, so I'll let your agreement with Van pass. ;) You are sure to learn quickly. :D Then you must not be reading. I would call it awkward because there is no relational connotation of the word "sibling" in the English language. It misses the purpose of the greeting or reference...

Before you declare what is ongoing orthodoxy, can you tell us what you mean by a spiritual resurrection? I'm not denying it, but I would only say that this is part and parcel to regeneration. Thus the New Covenant has been enacted and believers have entered an initial eschatological stage of...

So often the plural of αδελφος, αδελφοι ("brothers") is used to greet believers. According to your translation philosophy, how would you proceed? Do you translate it formally or literally "brothers" and thus denotatively exclude female believers? Do you translate it functionally...

who me? ;) Again... so sorry for thinking that you might want to learn from someone who is more educated in the field in which you were discussing. My bad... completely in the wrong in that regard. I'll not try to help you again. I promise to let you continue to sound ridiculous to the experts...

Fools and their folly, dogs and vomit, answer or don't answer the fool. It's all there. It is also called justice. Kinda like "luck favors the prepared"... or "stupid is as stupid does"... then I say "suckers deserved to be swindled.

"that tell us what they think it means, rather than what it says." This is a meaningless juxtaposition: what something says as opposed to what someone thinks it means. What something says is not in a vacuum. Someone has to read it and interpret it all the same. To set off translation...

Wow! "Supreme irony". Kinda strong. But comically ironic? You betcha! Suckers deserve to be swindled.

Now that the PhD program is changing (expanding?, yay Dr. Thomas!) I'd do it in the NT, I think. That is what I did my ThM in w/ DAB. However, I am really interested in SBTS biblical theology PhD. I wish SEBTS would do that. We have some good scholars who excel at biblical theology

I think only evangelist6589 is aloud to start threads on LS. It is in the BB by-laws I believe. ;)

Institutes IV, 4, 2. I came across it while reading Dever's booklet on elder led congregational ruled churches called By Whose Authority? Elders in Baptist Life.

Acts 10:41 uses the word plus a compound w/ a preposition for God choosing (προκεχειροτονημένοις). "not to all the people but to us who had been chosen by God as witnesses, who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead." And I was referring to outside sources of God choosing w/ this...

JFB commentary The embolden part is what I have been arguing against Van if we push his meaning too far.

From the pulpit commentary... not deeply technical so all of us can understand it:

Apparently you haven't been reading my posts. I cited other sources that used the word for God appointing. If you had done your due diligence and actually researched this, you'd know w/out me telling you. You may not by word reject that Paul and Barnabas are the subjects, but your definitions...

I think that would be stretching the meaning of the word and defining a word based on a theological position rather its semantic range.

Your pride astounds me. I can at least be honest. And the only reason I would grant what I did was Wallace's intermediate grammar. Though its subtitle is "An Exegetical Syntax of the NT". Be that as it may... I stand by my words. Syntax is a discipline in its own right and should be...