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That was my public profession of faith. My original profession of faith that granted me the grace of God to salvation was made in my heart when I heard and believed the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I was saved, washed in the Blood, born-again a new creation in Christ at that very moment.

From the IFB perspective I made profession of faith in water Baptism.

We may have difference of definitions of what dead faith means. James gave an example of Abrahams faith being a live faith vs. a dead faith. Abrahams faith was proven through his actions, not faith and works together equaling justification. There's no way we can take James as meaning faith...

Oh, ok, I'm learning something here. The RCC then blames the Reformers as the heretics but not the followers seeing they are victims. These are things we need to know.

According to the RCC, not you, not your opinion, is Charlie24 a heretic or a separated brother?

We do those things you have mentioned in your post, but here is the difference in the Catholic and the Protestant. We only make repentance and faith mandatory for salvation, the rest you have mentioned we do because we are already saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

So many works I must perform in the RCC to be born-again. My faith is not enough, there are ceremonies I must do to seal my salvation. That is the base of my rejection, a total rejection, believing I can only be saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. So there is no way Charlie24 is...

It's for sure the Reformers were condemned as heretics and could not be saved outside the RCC. So it seems the RCC has made compromise that the protestants can be saved, but it's rather vague. I suppose no clear answer will ever be known.

@Cathode There's a Catholic question I can't seem to get answered. It's a reasonable and serious question. The early Church fathers believed in "outside the Church there is no salvation," well obviously I'm not in the RCC. Now the RCC says one can be saved outside the Church through no...

Other than you and few other Catholics I've met through years, my 12 years old grand-daughter could put them to shame. No, my friend, all that history was written by fallen men that eventually formed an institution called the RCC.

I think you may be right.

When you some time show me some of that and I'll fact check it in my trusty old KJV.

No, that's not right, I don't know what I'm doing. It was a water moccasin.

K, I was bitten by a copperhead as a young teenager, that's as close as I've come a snake since. Man, they make my skin crawl.

I have to admit you've got me there!

Cathode, tell us about the Nicene Creed, when it began and what it was.

You see Cathode, if the RCC can't man-up with when they really began then they can't be traced in history and the whole thing is a shame.

My evidence is in the same place as your claim the RCC began in the New Testament Scripture.

I'm sorry, Cathode, the State Church that laid the groundwork for the RCC beginning around 300 ad went off the rails concealing the Word of God from the people and ushered in the Dark Ages. A period of time when God's wrath was on this earth in anger.

Luther wasn't right about everything just as we aren't right about everything. If someone believes they are they are deceiving themselves. What was special about Luther is that he obeyed God in seeing the error of the Church and correcting what he seen as wrong, but for the most part, even in...