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Enables = Forces. That is not love. That is choosing who will love you and is false love if you ask me.

Prophets had God come to them in dreams or by His voice, they could have reasoned in their minds that they were crazy and hearing things, OR they could have had faith that God was there and desired to do His will. That is what faith is, and that was counted to them as righteousness. God called...

Throwing comments like that is unloving. I interpret scripture with scripture and as I said, if God chose who to save and it takes our own personal choices to be saved, by believing in faith after hearing the Gospel, then the Bible contradicts itself, only one reality has to be true. And the...

I don't understand the question. What do you mean? Either way, man chooses, that's the whole point. God doesn't FORCE us.

People know there is a God based on creation itself, so man is without an excuse. He reveals Himself to everyone and all have a chance to reject sin and trust in God. But man loves sin more than God and very man choose not to make them their Lord.

Right, God revealed Himself to people as He does every day now through missionaries and people picking up and reading a bible, and then we respond in saving Faith. :)

Okay, God told Adam and Eve not to eat of the fruit, did He then make Adam and Eve sin? No, they had a free will choice to choose, and they did, wrongly, and now we have sinful natures, but we still have the ability to choose to believe in Jesus, who then grants us the Holy Spirit to be able to...

Yes, I love His son and trust His word and follow Him as my Lord. That is all a choice I had to make on my own after God revealed His word to me. I had to make that choice. As you did. As every saved man/woman has done in all of history.

Sir, I believed as you did once about predestination, and I was convinced a long while, but then I saw the truth through MY OWN STUDYING OF THE WORD. Stop judging what you think I have done and judge me based on what I say myself. Thanks

13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, IN WHOM YE TRUSTED, AFTER HEARING WORD OF TRUTH, AFTER THAT YE BELIEVED. How can you say we were predestined...

That's foolish when the articles themselves talk about God's word and reference it :rolleyes:

You are taking it out of context and basic logical reasoning. God calls every man to repent/come to saving knowledge of Jesus, and that is what he is meaning when he says 'called'. Once a man decides to answer that call, men are desiring to do His will and God has a plan for each one of His...

Yet again, here we are. Your scripture supporting my view. Yes I agree Jesus/God knew who would choose Him. He is all knowing. (duh). And of course no one can come to Jesus until after God accepts that person whom comes to Him in faith. Matthew 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy...

Is that a trick question? The Us-Ward and the all/any is referring to all men. He doesn't wish anyone to die, but will only save those who put their faith and trust in Him.

Exactly. God is responding to Moses' great faith. It is only after Moses has had faith in God that God says He has found grace in His sight, and of course He knows His name. God know everyone's names, but He only chooses to acknowledge those and hear those who have faith in Jesus. And yes...

Effort denotes a work. Faith is NOT a work. Refer to post above this one.

We're not doing anything (works wise) to GET the gift. We're responding to the gift in faith. Now let me show you some scripture, 6 times a man's faith is counted to him as righteousness. Romans 4:9; Romans 4:22; Galatians 3:6; James 2:23; Genesis 15:6; Titus 3:8 9 Is this blessing then...

Wrong. Works salvation is a man/woman doing enough good to out-weight the bad (which is impossible). One choice a man/woman makes through faith to believe the Gospel is NOT a work. You're saying faith in Jesus is a work now which is blasphemy to me.

The way you speak of the Holy Spirit is questioning. The Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin, and the man or woman has a chance to acknowledge their sin and repent and believe the Gospel or not. Plain as that! So you still deny that God isn't forcing you to believe upon Him by giving just...

No, I do not show hatred toward a God who is powerful and over all the universe. I do not choose to believe in a God who forces his creation to love him. Choosing = Forcing. Plain and simple, you just like to dress up your view to make it sound less wicked than it actually is. Why would you...