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Recently my thoughts have returned to the phenomena of repetition, duplication, and redundancy in the Bible. This occurs on several levels: entire passages running many verses of one book that are repeated word-for-word either in same book or different book (people are often surprised by...

I completely fail to see how stilllearning could draw his "redundant" conclusion based on John Gill's commentary alone. I would guess that many folks were not inclined to read it carefully earlier, so let's now take a close examination of what Gill actually did write (but to make it easier to...

It seems that you are trying to misdirect our attention by implying that we have been discussing the nebulous "accuracy" of Bible translations & if a Bible translation can be "trusted"; but I will remind us all of your words from your own introduction of this topic -- You had established the...

Darby doesn't get discussed much, does it? It is very literal (even more accurate than the KJV where I have tested it); and the underlying Greek is not slavish to the TR or later Greek texts (very eclectic). True, the English is older; but that's OK because I am accustomed to the KJV and...

Saying prayers for you.

1) Darby 2) MLB 3) Norlie-NT 4) Geneva 5) ALT-NT 6) ASV 7) NET 8) NASB 9) AV1611 10) TBD!

If I am choosing only for myself to read/study, I might choose Darby (but OTOH, the ASV could also be good choice).

PART FOUR, the literary influence of the KJV concluded (and the end of my book review in toto). Chapter 14 covers the 19th century by selecting 'representative' authors and their works: William Blake, William Wordsworth, Samuel Cooleridge, Nathiel Hawthorne, Melville (especially Moby Dick)...

What about this specific missing Greek word in current KJV translations at Matthew 18:6? There are 37 English words in the AV text representing 29 Greek words (of which at least 2 are completely untranslated). Greek below from Stephanus 1550 TR (my bold) -- But whoso shall offend one of these...

Your misuse of John 17:8 is appalling! You have taken Christ's statements completely out of context in an attempt to make your point. Even if this verse could be applied to the Bible (which it shouldn't), it is NOT a certainty that the manner in which the Father chose to communicate with the Son...

What do you mean by "DO"? Are the capital letters indicitive of an acronym? Or, is does it merely represent the emphasized English term meaning 'to perform an action'? What do you mean by "matter"? Did you intend for us to understand "matter" to be a generic type of physical substance? And...

From essay No.49 entitled "On the Impropriety of Publically Adopting a New Translation of the Bible" in Viscesimus Knox's second edition of Essays, Moral and Literary (1782) -- We have received the Bible in the very words in which it now stands from our fathers; we have lerned many passages of...

Makes me wonder: What does Ryken think about many of the revisions that Parris and Blayney made? (He doesn't mention any revisions to the KJV.) Was the KJV even more superior before they got hold of it? According to Campbell for examples, Parris is responsible for the change of "fourscore" to...

One example of a quote from this chapter is apparently by George Bernard Shaw (p.163) -- "In these instances [of bible distribution] the Bible means the translation authorized by King James the First. ...The translation was extraordinarily done because the to the translators what they were...

PART FOUR is the literary influence of the KJV (which is clearly where Ryken wanted to go with this book) Chapter 12 speaks generally of how the Bible can enter literature as either an actual source or by way of allusions, echoes, or just a "presence". Chapter 13 covers the 17th century...

PART THREE of Ryken's book covers the KJV as a literary masterpeice. In Chapter Eight he forms the criteria of literature as opposed to ordinary informative writing. Basically, there are three: literature is characterized by genres (like poetry and narrative); literature present human...

Of course, frequently Ryken and Campbell agree. For example, Ryken (p.56) -- "By modern standards the KJV is too heavily puncuated; the explanation is that the King James translators had in mind the oral reading and hearing of their translation, so they used puncuation to guide oral reading."...

Completion of PART TWO of Ryken's book -- Chapter Six covers the influence of the KJV on language, education and religion. One demonstratable way to show the KJV's impact on language is by the frequency of it being quoted at length and short idioms made familiar. He makes the case for the KJV...

A fact confirmed in another book I am concurrently reading. I had considered doing a separate thread for Gordon Campbell's Bible: The Story of the King James Version (2010) but I think I will just add some comments to this thread for contrast and comparison. For example, Campbell writes about...

PART TWO of Ryken's book is about the KJV in history. Chapter Five covers the KJV's influence on subsequent Bible translation. He begins by stating that the KJV had 3 impacts on Bible translation: "its mere presence", its intimidation of other translation projects to either to be completely...