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What about a consistent hermenuetic? Do you look for significance outside the immediate context for all similar constructions? For examples, would you search for a different relationships beyond what would be the most direct and obvious context in these verses? Why, or why not? -- 2Sa 13:23 And...

Here's what Ryken says about the "plowboy" statement (p.25): "The reference to the plowboy has been extravagantly misinterpreted. It is not a comment on Tydale's preferred English style but rather a statement about (a) how widely Tyndale wanted the Bible distributed across English social strata...

The first two chapters (together less than 20 pages) are a sketch of early English Bibles. Chapter One covers Wycliffe & Tyndale: the most interesting comments here to me was that Ryken suggests that the KJV basically owes 3 things to Wycliffe (the first vision of an English translation, the...

Amen to that! My first reaction to your OP was that generally translations ought not to be very accommodating to specific circumstances; that would be a moving target that perhaps would serve only to cause more confusion. Then I read the article. My thoughts did not change. Actually, I...

Perhaps no one else has read this book, or intends to. Also in the Preface, Ryken states of the NIV (NT) that he thought it was "an insipid and lifeless translation." Apparently, he feels he has proved that the NIV is "an inferior translation" (in a review for Christianity Today on the NIV's...

According to the Preface this book was "occasioned by the four hundredth anniversary" of the KJB "to provide information" about the version and "it's influence." Anybody read it? I just started it.

I didn't catch that at first because that was not my focus; but its OK. Why do you suppose that so many translations do NOT give the fullest meaning into English at this verse?

Thanks for comments, gentlemen. Yes, I like that alot! It seems to correspond very well with other material I have read concerning this verse.

Will you explain to us why it is you cannot read the even older and also well respected Geneva Bible, or Tyndale's New Testamant? Some knowledgeable people would say that the Geneva and Tyndale are actually easier to read than the KJV. I would tend to agree with them, since I have read the...

"Shall be" sounds like future, while "will have been" sound like past tense -- And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (KJV)...

Once more the ruby-colour'd portall open'd, Which to his speech did honey passage yield; Like a red morn, that even yet betoken'd, Wreck to the seaman, tempest to the field, Sorrow to the shepherds, woe unto the birds, Gusts and foul flaws to herdman and to herds. --Shakespeare, Venus &...

The 'best' English translation has probably yet to be produced.

(Sorry, I'm not Rippon) but it is true. Many ancient manuscripts exibit various divisions of the scriptures; those are handwritten documents, not complete printed texts though. Most printed Bibles have be rather consistent since the late 16th century. Although, I own a 1947 Swann New...

And he gave up the ghost full softly. --Chaucer [1913 Webster]

Mordre wol out, that see we day by day. Geoffrey Chaucer, Canterbury Tales The Nun's Priest's Tale, Line 15058 (early 1400s)

John, does this statement above imply that there are perhaps other places where you don't think the MT (TR/kjv) is the "best" text? (I will not follow up an answer on this thread, so as not to drag this one off course. Thanks.)

To wit, two other 'wits'. Proverbs 8:12 (KJV) -- ¶ I wisdom dwell with prudence, and find out knowledge of witty inventions. and Wisdom 8:19 (AV1611 Apocrypha) -- For I was a wittie child, and had a good spirit.

A quote attributed to Alvah Hovey below from the book Baptists and the Bible (p.281). Hovey attended and then taught at Newton Theological Institution (missionary Adoniram Judson alum) -- III. Because infallibility in the original Scriptures requires for its complement infallibility in all...

I "use" too many to list, but the MLB is also one of my top five favorites.

Amen. I agree, it is wise to not bring it up it unless they initiate the conversation. I suppose by "understand" you mean that you can sympathize with their preceived situation: that they have soley invested in one version and now they have been suddenly alerted that it has flaws. And...