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    The Crux of Keeping the Sabbath Day Contention

    I am certainly happy for the Baptist emphasis on soul liberty throughout the ages. I believe the apostles put an emphasis on Sunday, as the first day of the week, the day that Christ rose again, and began to worship the Lord on that day. Actually their worship, according to Acts 2 was daily...
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    The Crux of Keeping the Sabbath Day Contention

    Thanks for your graciousness. I have been in this forum for a number of years now battling with the SDA's which has forced me into the Scriptures to study the scriptures concerning the Sabbath. I believe their stand is totally unbilbical for a number of reasons. But as I mentioned I do believe...
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    Cain and God?

    And that is why the discussion came down to Cain. It is obvious that Cain did have faith. When he offered his sacrifice we determined that he did not offer his sacrifice in faith but rather in rebellion to God. He was jealous of his brother Abel, as the account describes. But it was his...
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    Candidates of Apostasy; Are you one?

    There are many things that are impossible, even to God. For example, "It is impossible for God to lie." For us, God has given us some commands which may be impossible to keep until we get to glory: Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. --This...
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    Cain and God?

    I agree with all that you say except for one small point. I simply don't believe that God has to give you the faith to believe in Him. That is the only point in which we disagree.
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    Cain and God?

    No, and you of all people should be more agreeable to my position, or at least understand it. You admit that there is faith outside of what you term as "saving faith." So it is true that all men have faith. It is just not the "saving faith" as you describe it, true enough? Thus we all have...
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    Cain and God?

    I never said he had "saving faith" as you call it. In fact I clearly said that he had no faith at all but doubt, which is not faith, and offered his sacrifice not in faith but in rebellion. Go back and read my posts. I also stated that the faith you are referring to is what others are...
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    The Crux of Keeping the Sabbath Day Contention

    I have thought this through carefully many times. The Lord's day is not the Sabbath Day, does not replace the Sabbath day, has no relevance to the Sabbath day, IMO. The commandment to keep the Sabbath Day holy is the only commandment of the Ten not repeated in the NT. It is the only commandment...
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    Cain and God?

    (MKJV) And pray that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men; for all do not have the faith. Barnes states that: "all men do not have the same kind of faith." Paul was opposed by enemies on every hand. In fact that is what he is speaking about, but you take the verse out of...
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    Cain and God?

    But he didn't. So throw your "what if's" in the garbage.
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    Cain and God?

    Cain's offering was not by faith. It was by works, and thus rebellious. 1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
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    Cain and God?

    Cain's "so-called" faith, that which you are calling faith, was not faith at all. He sacrificed in rebellion to God, not in faith toward God.
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    Cain and God?

    Why are you asking me something I never offered as a solution to this biblical scenario? To give an answer to your question I will give a parallel situation. A Hindu offers a sacrifice in faith to his elephant god "Ganesh" believing that the god he worships will accept it? Will the god accept...
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    Cain and God?

    It is the way that I worded it that may sound confusing to you. What faith did Cain have that his sacrifice would be accepted? If he knew he was supposed to offer a blood sacrifice then he knew he was offering a sacrifice in rebellion that would be rejected by God. Perhaps he thought there...
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    The Crux of Keeping the Sabbath Day Contention

    My final arbiter is the Word of God: Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. 16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the...
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    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Are you denying a literal hell; a literal heaven?? The reference is Mat.18:20. The context is church discipline. The verse says: Matthew 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. ---It does not talk of heaven, but rather of the presence of...
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    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Yes, it was spoken, and then written. That is why the Holy Spirit would bring it into remembrance. --John was told to write, and so were the others: Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for...
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    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    That is understandable. However I do think this subject of sola scriptura is a very important one. The Bible teaches sola scriptura as an orthodox doctrine inasmuch as it teaches the trinity as an orthodox doctrine. In both the principles are inferred by other scriptures. Both doctrines are...
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    Candidates of Apostasy; Are you one?

    To get back to the OP: We all hear of men like Charles Templeton. http://www.cstnews.com/bm/other-hot-topics-for-informed-christians-cstnews/pathetic-preacher-dies-in-unbelief~print.shtml --He preached alongside Billy Graham in some of his great crusades. And then suddenly apostatized. How could...
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    Was The Rich Young Ruler Lost Eternally?

    I have never given an altar call or invitation as such, nor have I seen anyone else do it. Most of the saints of God who have passed on to glory had previously requested that the gospel be preached for they knew their unsaved loved ones would be there. After a gospel message or an appropriate...
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