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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    They rejected him as King. He never set up his Kingdom. He was rejected. So how was there a king without a kingdom in the time of Christ? He came as a suffering servant. And though some declared him king on one day (Palm Sunday), near the end of that same week (Good Friday) they put him to death...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    Then realize this. You will not convert me to a Calvinist position, and neither will the others. It does you and the others no good to call my salvation into question, call me a liar, or any other name, as has been done either by you or by others--probably more by others than by you. It is a...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    I have already answered those questions many times.
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    That is a total non sequitor. Do you hold grudges forever? Never let go of things? Don't know the meaning of forgiveness? Did you ask for clarification on the matter? I don't even know what you are referring to, but you are certainly not referring to anything I posted, are you?
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    1. We are not part of the nation of Israel. 2. Even in the nation of Israel, the Lord was not always their king. 3. From the time of Sinai or the Law to the time of Saul, Israel was set up as theocracy, where the Lord was their rightful king. But then they rejected the theocracy, and in doing...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    In answer to this post: http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/the-heavenly-zion-and-jerusalem-the-church.98427/page-6#post-2210860 where IT references Col.1:13, I answered here: http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/the-heavenly-zion-and-jerusalem-the-church.98427/page-7#post-2210866 Now...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    Let's examine this position. Was Christ ever king while on earth, and was the earth ever made his earthly realm? If so, when? Where does the Bible give such information? Apart from a few Christophanies, He came as a babe born in a manger, and an idol of Him can be found in most Catholic...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    It is not true. To say that the King (Christ) is here, on the earth, is to deny the gospel. Here is scripture: Romans 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. --When he was...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    You take an OT story and allegorize it, trying to make it apply to the NT. It doesn't. 1 John 5:19 more accurately says that "the whole world lies under the power of the "Evil one." That means Satan. 1 Pet. 2:11 says that we are pilgrims and stranger on this earth. Phil.3:20 says that our...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    Based on what? Are you a child? Monkey see; monkey do? Read my above post and answer to IT.
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    For the record, go back to your post here: http://www.baptistboard.com/threads/the-heavenly-zion-and-jerusalem-the-church.98427/page-6#post-2210860 Here you referenced Col1:13. In fact it is a link. Click on the link. It uses the word "translate." Don't call me a liar, when I have not done so...
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    Who Populates the Millennial Kingdom?

    I don't want you to take this the wrong way or to sound nasty, but your reply sounds very similar to many of the Catholics I encounter in the Other Christian Denom. Forum. They say they would rather rely on their Catechism, their superiors, those that have gone on before them, etc. It sounds...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    A misrepresentation of facts which is a lie. The King is not ruling. He is not here as King but He is here to all who would wish to receive Him as Lord and Saviour. This is the dispensation of grace. Soon it will be too late. The dispensation of judgment is right around the corner. And then he...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    As far as I could tell (I could be wrong) you were quoting from the KJV which uses the word "translated." You did quote the verse. Let me check. Here it is: So you used it. Obviously I thought it was a source of confusion for you, so I quoted a couple of other translations for your benefit. Do...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    There was a reason I didn't answer it, and not the reason you think. Now let's move on.
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    Perhaps you are confused by the KJV. We are not "translated" as Enoch was. (ESV) He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, (EMTV) He has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    You have an odd way of generating thought--questioning the salvation of another is against the rules. Basically that is what you did. Christ is my Lord (not Satan), although Christ has left me to live in the kingdom of Satan to be a light in this world, and salt on this earth. I do believe the...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    If you were in fact translated into the Kingdom of God, a physical kingdom, and do not live in the kingdom of Satan, as you do, then you would be sinless. But you live in Satan's dominion; his kingdom. As he tempted Jesus to sin, so he tempts you. However, only Jesus can and did remain sinless...
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    The Heavenly Zion and Jerusalem. .....the Church

    I said: Each person knows their own heart. This was descriptive of the posters on this board, like yourself. So is this an admission you don't know your own heart? I wasn't talking about the unsaved here.
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    The Crux of Keeping the Sabbath Day Contention

    But how? In what kind of practice? Just a stroll through the park? What do you do that demonstrates you are keeping the Sabbath? I don't want all your theology from the OT. I want what you do. What do you do on the Sabbath. You say you keep it. How? Demonstrate to the rest of us how you keep...
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