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No, it doesn't. Yes, God caused pagan nations to attack Israel as a form of His judgment upon Israel. That's not what we are talking about. That has been the problem with most of the responses I have seen in this thread. You guys keep coming up with examples of things that are not sins to...

No one is denying that God hardened Pharaoh. It helps if you don't keep trying to refute an argument that wasn't raised. But there are several places in Scripture where it is said that Pharaoh hardened his own heart. (Ex. 8:15, 32; 9:7, 34). I am not adding a philosophical bent. All I am...

No one said that God is not in control of every aspect of creation. What I said, for my part, is that His control doesn't include ordaining people to commit wickedness. That is really all I am saying. I disputing what His control looks like, not whether He is in control or not. It would...

I don't think so. For my part, I don't pit the Bible against itself. I don't use Scripture, to refute Scripture. Rather, I deal with the interpretation and usage of Scripture offered by someone else. It is not enough to simply cite Scripture; rather, one must have sound exegesis in their...

But what God didn't do in the process of hardening Pharaoh, was force him to sin against Him. I'll stick with the Bible without trying to make the Bible fit the philosophical bent of John Calvin.

Yes and God did harden Pharaoh's harden heart. But, it's like when you know a person really well to know how they will react or respond to an external stimulus. For example, a man knows that spending time on the golf course today will irritate his wife. He knows how she will react and can...

God is in control of all things, but that control doesn't mean that every action a person takes is God-ordained. God has purposes and plans in our world and every action. Yes, God causes events that effect people, but again, that is not what is at issue. Does God cause people to sin? Does...

We can all look back and see the Lord's direction in our lives. We can't always see it in the moment, but we can look back over the years at where we used to be and where we are now and we can trace the hand of the Lord in our lives. That does NOT mean that every action taken was because the...

Who said that God is not in control of nature? We are not talking about natural events. The discussion has been about whether or not God ordains every action we make. Does God ordain every choice we make, even if that choice is sinful? Jesus's death on the cross was ordained by God. The...

No, what I am saying is that there are set things, in the future, which God has specifically told us He has ordained will happen. That doesn't mean that God is a passive observer in human affairs. It doesn't mean that God isn't using events in our lives, whether they are good or bad, to...

That is very sloppy exegesis. Rom. 9:22-23 is refers to those who made themselves vessels of wrath prepared for destruction. The word for "prepared" in the Greek is in the middle voice which indicates something someone does to himself. In Romans 9 it refers to people who have made themselves...

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I think you have the wrong person. That post has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

The nation of Egypt was under God's judgement for their enslavement and bitter treatment of the Israelites. Any Egyptian soldier who was a first born child not under the blood would have died. But that is the product of the judgement of God, not the product of any kind of limited atonement...

??? Did you actually read my post? If the atonement were limited, then God would have had the death angel only some Israelites to pass over. But the blood on door posts of all the Israelites homes protected all of the first born in those homes and led the redemption of the ENTIRE nation...

None of that applies to fallen angels.

Not half way. Angels are not "sinners" and not called "sinners" anywhere in the Bible. They are not qualified for, or included in the plan of redemption. You need to come to grips with that truth.

I guess that is what you resort to when you can't make a coherent response.

Nope. I am saying that they are not objects of redemption. Jesus did not die for sinful angels. He died for sinful man.

Wrong. It is not a limitation on the blood if someone hears and rejects the Gospel. It is a fallacious and biblical incorrect statement to make that if the blood has no limitations, everyone would be saved. That is simply not true. The limitation is on the Gospel, not the blood. The...