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  1. GoodTidings

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    Wrong. The limits on salvation have to do with the willingness of the hearers to believe the Gospel. The blood of Jesus and its power are available to all, but many reject the Gospel and cannot appropriate it. That is not divine limit that God set on the blood. The blood saves everyone who...
  2. GoodTidings

    Ask in Sunday School

    Sure. The ones claims to have ordained and decreed. There is no biblical evidence that every action or event is decreed by God to occur.
  3. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    No, I am not wrong at all. Sorry, but the passage you cite does not limit Jesus death to a certain group of people. Again, your exegesis is sloppy and promotes a false gospel. Gal 3 refers to those who are the seed of Abraham by faith. . No one is the seed of Abraham by faith until AFTER...
  4. GoodTidings

    Ask in Sunday School

    The point I was making is that it is not example of God ordaining sin. As for control, I never said that God was not in control. I am simply making the point that God's sovereignty is not damaged in any by any free will choice made by us. And that it cannot be said from the Bible that every...
  5. GoodTidings

    All Atonement is Limited by Something

    There is no limitation on blood of Jesus to save every single human being. The only reason everyone who hears the Gospel isn't saved is because many, many people reject the Gospel. It's not because God set a limit on who He would save, but because of the hardness of heart of those have heard...
  6. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    Nope. That is not true. You need to start following Jesus and the pure of Word of God stop trying to promote lies and false doctrine.
  7. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    No, you are mistaken due to sloppy exegesis. That verse occurs in a context that explains why Jesus is greater the angels. The reference is to the line of Abraham, the Messianic line. Jesus is THE Seed of Abraham and the Messianic line goes back to Abraham. This is not comparison...
  8. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    Jesus died for all people, not select group.
  9. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    We don't need one. If the argument you are making is that since there is no verses that expressly excludes fallen angels, thus fallen angels can be saved, you are committing a logical fallacy by making an argument from silence. You can introduce any kind of false teaching imaginable on the...
  10. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    ALL of whom are men.
  11. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    Angels cannot be saved because angels are not human beings and are not the object of God's plan of redemption. The plan of redemption is only ever presented in the Bible as being for humanity. Again, if you believe otherwise, then show us. If you believe that angels can be saved, then...
  12. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    You're confusing issues. No one is saying that Jesus' death doesn't cover all sin. Jesus paid for all sins past, present and future. But that only applies to humanity. Jesus died to redeem those who of Adam's line, which excludes angels.
  13. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    Actually, if you are making the argument FOR the redemption of fallen angels, you need to show that they are included in the plan of redemption. Nowhere in the Bible are fallen angels included. So we don't need to a verse that explicitly states that fallen angels are not included. If you...
  14. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    Jesus didn't simply die for SIN. Jesus died for us to save us from our sins. Jesus only died for human beings. And yes, God has favorites. We are the only creatures made in His image that He wanted to have to fellowship with. We are His creation and when we are saved, we are His...
  15. GoodTidings

    Christs died for Satan's sins?

    Jesus did not die for Satan. Satan is a fallen angel and angels are not the heirs of salvation. They are unredeemable. Jesus died to the pay the penalty for the sins of humanity, not the sin of fallen angels.
  16. GoodTidings

    Ask in Sunday School

    The problem with the link and Icon's view is that the Bible doesn't say that God ordains sin to occur. I am not talking about the problem of evil, which is what that link is addressing. I am not addressing whether or not God ordains evil to exist. I am talking about whether or not God...
  17. GoodTidings

    Ask in Sunday School

    I have not been considering my position. I have been addressing what Icon has, himself stated. So far, the majority of his responses center around things that are not in dispute. I am well aware his views and the fact that they are internally inconsistent and not rooted in Scripture. I am...
  18. GoodTidings

    Ask in Sunday School

    No it doesn't mean they were ordained. You assume that every action is ordained by God, but the Bible does not say that. And so far you have not quoted ONE Scripture that proves every act is ordained by God. it doesn't make Him the author of sin, but if He ordained a sin to occur, He...
  19. GoodTidings

    Ask in Sunday School

    No, because He is omniscient. Yes, He knows they will happen, but does not prevent them. Why would God ordain us to sin on the one hand and then command us NOT to sin. Why would God do that? That would self-defeating. The Bible says in Eph. 1, that we are predestined to be blameless...
  20. GoodTidings

    Ask in Sunday School

    Yes. All that verse says is that God, due to their impenitence had already decided to judge them for their sin. They experienced a judicial hardening of their hearts, much the way Pharaoh did. That led to their final judgment at the hand of the Lord.
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