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  1. steaver

    Willful Sin Kills You

    You will have to explain your "oral law" defense. Please do so with scripture. I have never seen the phrase "oral law" in my reading of scripture.
  2. steaver

    What is the hold?

    What happened was a Catholic teacher realized his church had lost it's way, becoming Christian Pharisees, wondering further and further away from Sola Scripture and going about to establish their own set of mandates for justification. We can thank God for raising him up to sound the alarm. We...
  3. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Perfect example of adding to Scripture.
  4. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Scripture needs no interpreter. God has given us preachers and teachers to guide us through the scriptures that we may understand sound doctrine. We are responsible for raising questions when we see a teacher is giving something a spin or a twist or adding their own interpretations and declaring...
  5. steaver

    What is the hold?

    The Truth is in the Scripture, not in anyone's interpretations thereof. We are called to lead people through the Scriptures, it is the Holy Spirit whom will divide the Truth from any error man might interject.
  6. steaver

    Willful Sin Kills You

    "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace." You still did not answer... "Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?" (Gal 4:21) Answer Paul's question Jason. You do desire to be under the Law...
  7. steaver

    Willful Sin Kills You

    You are all over the place, this is why it doesn't make any sense to you. The writer of Hebrews is perfectly clear that he is speaking of rejecting the sacrifice in the Son of God. You are actually willfully disobeying God by rejecting that Jesus Christ is the end of the consequences of the Law...
  8. steaver

    Willful Sin Kills You

    It's not an interpretation, it's an application of exactly what is written, there is no "interpreting" needed. The writer is perfectly clear that he is speaking of rejecting belief in the Son of God. Your group is adding their own spin on it. Did you miss this part? ""For by one offering he...
  9. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Oh. ok. I will show you... Adonia and Utilyan, Please answer the following... Can a Good Samaritan hear the Gospel of Jesus Christ, reject it, and still be saved?
  10. steaver

    What is the hold?

    I did not see anywhere in Numbers 15 a clause for allowing them a chance to repent. Jehovah said stone them to death. So you do not even follow God's command even though you keep patting yourself on the back for doing so. Don't you see your dilemma? You are fooling yourself.
  11. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Actually, I am not under the Law. I am under the Grace of Jesus Christ. You have chosen to be under the Law with your demands to adhere to the Law or else. "Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?"
  12. steaver

    Willful Sin Kills You

    You totally miss the message of Hebrews 10. "If you sin willfully". What sin? The 10 commandments? The 600+ Torah laws? Hebrews 10 explains the sin he is speaking of from beginning to end. Hebrews is all about Jesus Christ, His sacrifice for all sin and the covenant made with those who...
  13. steaver

    What is the hold?

    So in your group you guys believe in your heart that a person who violates the Sabbath in your group should be stoned to death? You would probably be a Saul, watching the stoning of Stephen and consenting that it was good and just.
  14. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Now we are getting down to the basic. So you believe that all of us who do not keep the Sabbath are hell bound. So how does this work in your world? What happens when you personally violate the Sabbath? Do you lose your rebirth/salvation for a day. a week? And then you have to be born-again again?
  15. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Haven't you been following the conversations I have had with Adonia and Utylan (sp) ? Even the Pope has called Muslims our brothers and sisters.
  16. steaver

    What is the hold?

    After debating religion with people from different religions over the past 20 years I have observed the following; If you want to know exactly what a religion believes and teaches you will have to have a conversation with the followers of the said religion you are investigating. Religions will...
  17. steaver

    What is the hold?

    So then back to my original question since you are arguing against your first answer of Numbers 15... Now you are walking back your original answer so i will ask you again. If one does not obey the keeping of the Sabbath what is the consequence? And who in your church decides if a person has...
  18. steaver

    What is the hold?

    So you really think they killed this one and then all the rest obeyed and they did not kill any others? Really? What do you mean his people? Are you now saying this is only for the Jews? Are you saying if this country allowed you to carry out your religion as you see fit you would be stoning...
  19. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Well, do you admire them for telling people they can reject Jesus Christ and still be saved through love? We are not talking about how godly or nice people are in any religion, I'm sure their are many loving people in Islam, but that will not save them.
  20. steaver

    What does the Catholic Church say about us who believe in salvation by faith alone?

    What? we just had a conversation in another thread a couple weeks ago when you declared a person could reject Jesus Christ is the Son of God and still be saved by the good Samaritan clause. As long as a person loved God they could be saved even if they rejected Jesus Christ. It went as follows...
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