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  1. steaver

    What is the hold?

    I asked you what happens if you do not keep the Sabbath and you directed me to Numbers 15. Now you say it does not apply???
  2. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Actually it says "whether he is native or a stranger". So your congregation should be carrying out quite a few stonings.
  3. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Here it is... 31 Because he hath despised the word of Jehovah, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him. 32 And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering sticks upon the sabbath day. 33 And they...
  4. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Ok, so why are you not carrying out His command to stone those who disobey? God doesn't stone them, He tells you to stone them.
  5. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Ok you claim you keep the Sabbath... I asked you what happens if you don't... You say see Numbers 15... I ask you how many you have had to stone to death... You say, oh we don"t actually do what God says to do... Now tell me again how important it is that one keeps God Sabbath commandments?
  6. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Lol. You claim you keep the Sabbath and then you admit you don't do what God orders you to do if one of your followers disobey.
  7. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Then you are willfully in defiance to God's command. So keeping the Sabbath really isn't a serious thing for your church. It's more of a show for others to have them think you are doing something special.
  8. steaver

    What is the hold?

    This is true, but I think this is where becoming born-again comes in. When one receives Jesus Christ and becomes regenerated, the Truth causes them to break away no matter the circumstances. This is why I asked the question in the thread, does it boil down to being born of God?
  9. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Sorry I missed the Numbers 15 reference you gave. So how many people in your congregation have you stoned to death so far for not honoring the Sabbath?
  10. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Ok, so what happens when you miss honoring the Sabbath? And how do you know you honored it correctly?
  11. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Remember, God judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. You could be faithfully resting on the Sabbath and doing it because you think it satisfies God when in reality He has given us Jesus Christ as our Christian Sabbath. So what happens when you miss honoring a Sabbath? Do you lose your...
  12. steaver

    What is the hold?

    Then he thinks Jesus Christ is Pagan???
  13. steaver

    What is the hold?

    I doubt anyone here in the USA considers themselves "protesting catholics". I don't know about other countries. You do understand that there is no such thing as a Sunday Sabbath? What "Pagan" holidays are you speaking of? Christians can gather together and worship 24/7 365 days a year. There...
  14. steaver

    What does the Catholic Church say about us who believe in salvation by faith alone?

    Let's remember, (1) the "Faith" we are speaking of is Faith in Jesus Christ. Not any random faith in whomever you want to believe God is. (2) having faith means one trust and believes God. Satan and his angels do not have this faith we are speaking of, so your drum beat on that point is moot...
  15. steaver

    What is the hold?

    What do you think the hold is why Catholics cannot break free from the RCC? I remember when DHK was here, an ex-catholic, and he said what broke him free was being born-again after hearing the gospel. No matter even when the Scriptures goes against their beliefs, and they recognize that the...
  16. steaver

    What does the Catholic Church say about us who believe in salvation by faith alone?

    I have argued with Catholics before about the need for faith in Jesus Christ. They declare no faith is needed. So why do they seem to have an issue with non Catholics believing faith alone saves? Doesn't make much sense to come here and argue faith alone verses faith plus sacraments when they...
  17. steaver

    What does the Catholic Church say about us who believe in salvation by faith alone?

    When we speak of faith alone we are speaking of faith alone in Jesus Christ. Adonia, why are you even bothered by this at all? You and the RCC believe that no faith in Jesus Christ at all is needed for salvation. So why you even bothered? Even the RCC rules for salvation are worthless because...
  18. steaver

    Hate to say I told you so...

    There really should be a law that states anonymous resources cannot be cover for slander. One must be allowed to know their accuser just like in criminal law. Then all this mess created solely by the fake media would end and time would be spent on issues that matter.
  19. steaver

    Hate to say I told you so...

    So far, Trump is everything HIS voters hoped he would be. It is the left wingers and the poor loser Rhinos who can't stand their loss and keep making stuff up to try in stop him.
  20. steaver

    Hate to say I told you so...

    Are these the same polls that said Hillary wins in a land slide? Haven't we learned our lesson with polls yet? We are like the pig that gets a washing and then we go right back to wallow in the mud. More kool aid please!
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