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I'll give you a biblical example: Ps 23. Why does God do all that stuff for us? "For his name sake"!!! God is motivated by his own glory. This has been understood for ages. It was best expressed like America's greatest thinker and theologian, Jonathan Edwards. This is a good video that...

You mean God should be more for us than for himself??? He should place stock in something less valuable than himself??? That would make God an idolater. God being for himself is the greatest act of love he could bestow upon us. More on this later. I have to run.

Yep... kinda like the 1611.

You are a joy to disagree with. You are not disagreeable. I would simply challenge you to the following: do you ever see sovereignty in Scripture where he has authority and control but doesn't use it? Does he "can, may, and will" or is it always "will" in Scripture. Prov. 16 is a good...

That is the problem. You are not the arbiter. It doesn't matter how God is viewed to you. God is concerned with his glory.

Not a match. This can only be applied to God. For God to love and promote himself is an action of love. He is promoting that which will bring us the most lasting and enduring happiness: God himself. When we care more about our glory, we distract people from what will bring them the most...

That is not making God a liar. That just means God cares more about his glory than he does about his creation. That is a principle I am totally fine with. People tout about being God-centered so long as they serve a God who is man-centered. If God creates vessels to destroy them, that is...

Again... that is a hermeneutics issue not an exegesis issue. I will say this, communication (and texts) have a dense range of meanings. They are "thick". The "one intended meaning" may simply be one layer of the deeper meaning. This is important for Biblical interpretation if we espouse...

Can you summarize in a few sentences the relationship of 9-11 w/ 1-8? I did not follow this post so well.

Yep... which if evangelist#### won't read Wright b/c of his views of justification, one would think he would avoid Stott like the plague. I like both Wright and Stott, btw.

That misses the point of Paul's illustration! It is not the pot that is affecting how the potter shapes it and beautifies it. It is the opposite!!! Can the pot say to the potter, "Why have you made me like this"? Rhetorical question assuming the answer: No the pot can't say that to the...

Don't agree? Prove it! Don't just compare translations. Show me where it is inferior to the KJV either textually (this will never happen) or in its translation.

That is taking the metaphor and stretching far beyond its ancient meaning. Notice you had to use a medieval parallel. Pottery was not artwork in the ancient world. It was a trade that was used by anyone who wanted to drink water... i.e. everyone. Some people could purchase pottery w/...

I did a quick search on EBSCO/ATLA; I found this recent article but I'm not so familiar w/ the author. If you can't access it, I can get it for you. Just PM me. Shellrude, Glen. "The freedom of God in mercy and judgment: a libertarian reading of Romans 9:6-29." Evangelical Quarterly 81, no. 4...

How does 9-11 (a battleground passage for eschatology and soteriology) fit with Paul's argument from 1-8? Notice, Paul assumes it does flow. He gives no discourse marker that he is diving into a different topic with no relationship to the previous context. So what is the overall theme of...

More ex cathedra non sense which demonstrates more (1) you didn't understand my points (My point about page 2 was that you need to keep reading, he gives foundation to his views; but you simply dismess them b/c you apparently speak doctrine ex cathedra) & (2) you didn't read Schreiner's article...

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This is absolutely true. But a local church Bible "college" is not the answer for that. Seminary has its place, but the best education is a hard knock education. I'm speaking from experience.

Success in the eyes of God? As if the Bible college is the institution that God ordained??? Accreditation is success in the eyes of academia. And being a college is an academic institution, like it or not. This is my problem w/ local churches trying to have a "college" as a ministry...

Having known some of the NKJV translators, I'll appreciate it if you didn't talk about them as if you know anything. I'm still waiting for someone to demonstrate a non-TR reading in the NKJV as opposed to a non-KJV translation. Those differences from the KJV are just improvements in...