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Great books! There is also the OT classics Von Rad along w/ Waltke, Sailhamer, B. Childs, Christopher Wright (Mission of God and his other OT books). The OP mentioned Dempster which is the best I've read! Here is a list. NT you can add Schreiner's NT theology (he has a thick version and a...

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Just want to know how the more conservative of our brethren here would interact w/ such a commentary.

My point is to steer them to ask the right questions. So it is the opposite of "telling people not to ask questions,[sic.] and investigate scripture for the answer". I want honest inquiry. And that happens when people learn to stop asking the wrong questions and learn to ask the right ones.

It was written by a female? For example: bestcommentaries.com recommends Karen Jobes's commentary on 1 Peter as the #1 recommendation. It is in the Baker Exegetical series, which is quite solid. Would you use it? Would you buy it?

You have a link? I'd like to see that.

The subject will be so broad, do you really think it will be that great of a debate?

We could go on and on about this. Even your last statement about the ancient Jews believing in omnipresence is untrue but simply neo-platonic philosphy invading your theology. At this point though, neither of us it seems is bending. You seem to be having a hard time grasping what I am saying...

I am absolutely not kidding. Remember, you are not an ancient near easterner where things are not so analytical. The only reason he calls it the 3rd heaven is b/c the inner sanctum (holy of holies) was the 3rd stage of the temple. And heaven, the abode of God, was thought of as the true...

This is where I have gone in my head as well... I will protect my family. But if it is a matter of being persecuted for my faith, then I will willingly put my family in harms way for the sake of the gospel. Here is the difficulty, are you always going to know the difference in those...

That must also stand for the KJV translators since they were making a new translation. Why haven't I been talking to you before. You are easy to peg against the wall. Care to discuss a textual variant???

The concept of sacred space is one that baffles me. Honestly, too much neo-platonic talk is thrown into the mix, as some posters speaking of a different ontological realities have demonstrated. But I tend to think that many, especially the fundamentalists, are steered in their theology...

You can talk all you want, but you still haven't cited a place that says first or second heaven. The 3 stage concept comes from their understanding of the temple. Since God's abode is the true sanctuary, then the term "heaven" would thus be the 3rd stage. They didn't concern themselves w/...

So we can't use the KJV translators against KJVonlyism, but you can use this? What does it prove then? By the by, the KJV translators never renounced anything. They never fell into the cult of KJVonlyism.

None of those passages you cite actually use the term "first" and "second" as if they did draw a distinction between the sky and space. I know there was a knowledge of space for the ancients. I am just saying that it was not as cut and dry as we make it. I am really saying that Paul only...

Dude... I am trying to give you a little levity. Can you return the favor? I at least allow for the possibility that you are right (once holding your view strictly). I just wondered if you could chapter and verse the place that mentions the first and second heavens as the first and second...

So you failed the challenge b/c you didn't provide anything that said what you accused. And he challenges the post-reformation understanding of justification. But he affirms it is by faith alone. However, he also sees a future element that undoubtedly involves works as the vindication of...

I seriously never see any place where we are told to defend ourselves so as not to suffer for the kingdom. In fact, we are encouraged to share in the suffering, not avoid it. I find the literal interpretation of taking up arms for self-defense to be at so much odds w/ the teachings of Jesus...

Like I said, you may be right. But I don't know if Scripture is as systematic on this as you. B/c the temple was in 3 stages, stage 3 being the presence of God on earth; then that idea of 3 stages could be imparted to heaven in that God's presence is the 3rd stage or 3rd heaven. There may not...

I would nuance that a bit and say that Paul is relying on a common 2nd temple tradition of heaven being much like a temple... laid out in 3 stages: outer court, inner court, and most holy place. That thinking of the stages of the temple was applied to the throne room temple idea of God in...