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Perhaps the following quote is as close as Warren comes in PDL to explaining what it is to be redeemed: “God won’t ask about your religious background or doctrinal views. The only thing that will matter is, did you accept what Jesus did for you and did you learn to love and trust him?”...

Marcia and Dr. Bob, Here is some direct discussion on PDL and how it distorts the true gospel: http://www.twincityfellowship.com/cic/articles/issue80.htm

whatever you do, don't accidentally hit "print" on that page!

Jason, Well, you'll find a lot of opinions here - hopefully all Bible-based. The pattern in Acts and the pastoral epistles supports local churches that are led by a plurality of elders. The role of the deacons is not discussed in much detail. The idea of a single pastor (elder/bishop)...

Gordon, He has been my favorite for 15 years...

Marcia, If you have a copy of "The Purpose-Driven Church", you'll see an endorsement from Robert Schuller on the first few pages. Clearly, the PD Church is very similar to the PD Life - they are related quite closely. God bless you, Brian

Dr. Bob, Why would any Bible-believing Christian have ANYTHING to do with an outspoken apostate such as Schuller? You haven't dealt with the fact that Warren indicates his experience with Schuller was a life-changing one. Please explain how market driven and purpose driven are so "night and...

johnv, I found a host of other quotes from Schuller's infamous "self esteem" book: "The core of original sin, then is LOT--Lack of Trust. Or, it could be considered an innate inability to adequately value ourselves. Label it a 'negative self-image,' but DO NOT SAY THAT THE CENTRAL CORE OF...

No, I disagree. I disagree with much of his methodology, and don't defend it, but I don't discount him just because I don't agree with him. Heck, I disagree with D James Kennedy and Jerry Falwell a lot, but I respect these two men a lot. Come to think of it, I disagree with my own pastor on...

SBCBy Grace, I don't know how to cut and paste properly so bear with me... First, my paper is not 10 separate papers. It is only 9 pages. Are you sure you are seeing mine? It's called "An Examination of Exponential Growth". Second, you claim my case was built on a "faulty presuppositon"...

"As far as Robert Schuller, what does that have to do with the actual content of the PDL which is really what this discussion was about." Warren was influenced by Schuller, by his own admission, and his market-driven (purpose driven) philosophy is evidence of that. However, many good people...

johnv, Question for you: Knowing that Robert Schuller is an apostate (I'm sure you agree), under what circumstances would it be appropriate for Rick Warren, or any Baptist, to attend a conference that Schuller was leading? Does that not indicate a deficiency in discernment?

superdave, I don't expect everyone to have the same opinion on this - not at all. However, for you to claim the articles on that site "mostly had nothing to do with the PDL" is absolute proof that you have spent very little time there. Give your opinion and present your case, but please don't...

Johv, Please read this from Christianity Today: During his last year in seminary, he and Kay drove west to visit Robert Schuller's Institute for Church Growth. "We had a very stony ride out to the conference," she says, because such nontraditional ministry scared her to death. Schuller...

Dr. Bob, No, I am not confusing the two. Please read my most recent post. I address this issue. The issue of "seeker-sensitive" is quite abundant in "Purpose-Driven Life", and even more the case in "Purpose-Driven Church". Brian

SBCbyGrace, Thank you for the reply. I'm wrestling as to whether or not to continue with this discussion for a couple of reasons: 1. I already presented a strong case against Warren's philosophy on the above-mentioned website. It would answer most of your questions. However, you haven't...

SavedByGrace, You said: "Actually he says he uses "nearly a thousand quotations from Scripture" (get your facts right before accusing) & he only uses 15 in the book, so it is not that many. Warren explains that he uses so many translations in order "to help you see God's truth in new, fresh...

SBG, Did you read my paper on the above link?

Dr. Bob, Rick Warren is very close with Bill Hybels, apparently, and even attended Robert Schuller's school of church growth. There is an association. Also, did you read my article on Warren's video on "exponential growth"? There isn't much in similarity with a Southern Baptist there. Brian

superdave, Five things bother me about PDL: 1. The approach makes the "seeker" king. It advocates serious modifications in preaching and music so as to match the "market" of the culture around a given church. 2. Warren uses over 1300 scripture references (the book claims) but many of these...